TOP 5 Reason Margarito kicks Manny's ass

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  1. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    I think the fight will be so good that it will warrant a rematch. Floyd out of pic and back to retirement.

    but good break down analysis. I think Margo is a live underdog
     
  2. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    uppercut against a shorter fighter is not easy to execute.
     
  3. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    Clottey didn't seem to have an issue landing the few he threw.
     
  4. Bazooka

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    Margarito has not had a hard time getting that shot off on shorter fighters, ask Goldie Johnson
     
  5. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    That **** is hard to watch. He was probably pissing **** and shitting blood.
     
  6. Duck Dodgers

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    I don't bet on sports, but in this case, I will triple LukeO's bet. PM me if you're serious, we'll have to setup an escrow of some sort, although if you're in DC as your name suggests I'll gladly invite you over to watch the fight and you can just bring the cash with you.


    I got a 63" 1080p plasma, the beatdown will look delicious over here.
     
  7. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    True.

    But punch dynamics would tell you that throwing an uppercut against a 4-5 inches shorter fighter who does not exactly stay in close quarter is hard. First, you have to start the punch abnormally low in an upward arc in order to connect to the chin, an unnatural throwing arc, which leaves you way open to a counter.

    Besides Uppercuts are good if you know how to cover distance and your foe is standing in front of you like what Pac did to bait Clottey or Cotto. It is an opportunistic punch.

    Have you seen an uppercut thrwn in a manner of a straight or cross? Meaning that a distance covering punch? It would never reach any part of an opponent.

    I remember a fighter who used to do that (name I can not recall), and it looked awkward. He was throwing uppercuts like it is a jab or straight.

    Honestly, aybody bothered counting how many uppercuts did Cotto or Clottey actually landed? Against Cotto, that was the only punch that actually registered to many watchers but it is less than 5 probably the entire fight. And that one punch actually was when Pac was holding his arm up and inviting Cotto to tee on his body - the rope -a - dope.
     
  8. Bazooka

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    Actually Cotto is nearly the same height as Pacquiao and Margaritos uppers are what closed the show in that fight.
     
  9. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Cotto fights differently from Pac. Cotto has limited or no head or foot movement.

    I did not bother counting how many uppercuts Cotto actually landed against Pac but it is probably 2 or 3 at most (but most dramatic cinematic wise). The one that he was successful was the jab department.
     
  10. Bazooka

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    That is some ****in bull**** there, Cotto has good side to side and good head movement... stop with the ****, basicly when someone counters with the truth you tend to make up **** just so you can say your right.

    and Cotto landing uppercuts on Pac has nothing to do with Margarito landing his on Manny two different styles two different men and their attributes are far from even being close.... if Manny lays on the ropes with Tony as he did with Cotto you can bet your ass Margarito will be able to score an uppercut from long range he has six inches in reach.
     
  11. pejevan

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    I did not say he does not have one. I was relatively speaking, he does not have Pac's movement.

    To make this argument really objective, try to count how many uppercuts really landed. Cotto had one massive uppercut when Pac was doing his rope a dope thing and all of the sudden he is susceptible to uppercuts? Clottey also was able to land that uppercut when Pac stayed in front of him.

    Uppercuts are harder to execute against a shorter fighter and that is a well known textbook boxing credo, On the otherhand, a shorter fighter has more advantage throwing an uppercut in an ideal setting, meaning close quarter fighting.

    The shorter arms of the shorter fighter makes this an ideal weapon in close quarter fights.

    I am not beding the rules just to prove my point.

    Just try to go over the two fights, Pac vs. Cotto, or Clottey and count how many uppercuts actualy landed. If you discount the time Pac was intentionally standing or baiting them up, the picture might even be dimmer.

    Pac is susceptible to the right straight but not the uppercut.

    Let us just see tghe fight unfold since it is less than 2 months from today.

    Margarito has a big chance to win but uppercuts will not spell the difference. He is tall, lanky and longer reach. Throwing uppercuts negates those advantages.
     
  12. Dio

    Dio Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think the fight will be closer then we think, But pac-man will still win
     
  13. nbg75

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    So TS, will you?
     
  14. nbg75

    nbg75 Active Member Full Member

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    TS nowhere to be found. Just a troll?
     
  15. Duck Dodgers

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    He's a legit poster. No troll.