Top 5 reasons Sam Peter beats Oleg Maskaev

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  1. petrozza

    petrozza The Great Visionary Full Member

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    I think Peter will try a blitzkrieg tactic. If Maskaev weathers the early storm and lands something semi-significant to remind Peter of his fight against McCline, expect Peter to become really cautious and go for a guaranteed decision win.
     
  2. The Kurgan

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    Hyperbole.
     
  3. petrozza

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    Well, he did put Rahman down with a 1-2 combo in the 12th. On the other hand, when did Peter put someone down? The fluke jab KD against Toney doesn't count as Toney was fat, as always, and off balance.
     
  4. Brian123

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  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    He occasionally shows decent head movement (slipping jabs) and he can pick off punches.

    He's trained hard for this fight. It's just that he's very limited and that isn't going to chance. Still, he's one of the best heavyweights in the world.
     
  6. The Kurgan

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    Come on: when punches miss him or hit his gloves, it's because his opponent is anticipating him not to be totally stationary and is punching predictatively. If "deceptive lack of skill" counts as defence, Peter is a master of it.

    I don't expect him to transform into a fluid boxer-puncher, but as Mike Tyson and Sonny Liston showed, it's possible to be a one-track fighter with multiple ways of moving down that track.
     
  7. Ambition_Def

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    Fluke jab? God you are such a hater it's pathetic.
     
  8. petrozza

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    Yes, the jab KD against Toney was a fluke. Toney wasn't hurt at all, he was just badly off balance. Are you going to try to prove the opposite?
     
  9. Punisher33

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    Toney was off balance, but to call it a fluke is a little much. Peter did have Toney hurt in there first fight, where Toney had to hold on to the ropes just to keep from going down.:deal
     
  10. brooklyn1550

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    You're not giving him enough credit. You don't get as far as he has without any skill.

    He does move his head every so often. Doesn't mean he has a good defense (in fact he has a very sub-par one), but he does move his head and pick off some punches. He slipped Sykes' jab, picked off some shots from Klitschko, showed improved defense against Toney in their second fight, and slipped some jabs early on from McCline. In that fight, he slipped some shots and countered.
     
  11. petrozza

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    And Toney had Peter stunned and bleeding from the nose, so?
     
  12. The Kurgan

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    I wouldn't call it a fluke. I think it was a case of good timing and good snap behind the punch on the part of Peter. That said, Peter's problem is that his jab is very good but he lacks the guile to use it properly.
     
  13. Punisher33

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    He stopped him in his tracks, his legs didnt buckle or anything, bleeding? A Bryd jab could do that, any fighter could make another fighter bleed.
     
  14. The Kurgan

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    He is actually a good fighter offensively, however what bothers me is that the few offensive flaws he has (the lack of an uppercut in particular) are so obvious and so easy to remedy. His problem is that he's effective at what he does and his trainers are clearly content to leave it at that.

    The thing is, which most boxers at the world level, anything Peter does would be totally instinctive. Even compared to a pretty basic boxer like Maskaev, Peter is very crude.
     
  15. brooklyn1550

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    I can agree with you on that: a better trainer would help him. That's why I was pretty happy when he brought in Jesse Reid (who left for Tye Fields). If he could get some snap to his punches by bending his knees and getting his body to throw the punch, it would improve him greatly. Because after a few rounds or so, his punches become heavy handed clubbing shots with little impact power. They aren't KO shots.