Top 5 reasons Vitaly is overrated and not a top 20 ATG

You may have a point and I will neither agree nor disagree. I will say however that a rotator cuff injury is pretty serious business. Especially if you're participating in an activity where that shoulder and arm are constantly being used to both throw and block punches. Apparently, the injury became evident in the third round and by about the sixth, was causing him excruciating pain. I watch the HBO documentary today entitled " Klitschko." According to the men who were working his corner that night, he was in so much agony that it showed in his eyes. Now, would Muhammad Ali had quit on his stool had he been feeling the same pain? I have no clue. But he did tell his corner to cut the gloves off at the end of the 13th round in the Thrilla fight.. It was only by some saving grace that Joe's corner had called the fight about two seconds earlier...

 

Doing great, my homie.

Hahaha I agree just be a fan.

 

who has vitali beat that is worth an honourable mention 20 years from now, who ?

 

You said you only use facts, and I just proved to you that you don't use all facts. I never mentioned anything being debatable, don't know where that came from.

 

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Rocky Marciano
4. George Foreman
5. Joe Frazier
6. Larry Holmes
7. Lennox Lewis
8. Mike Tyson
9. Jack Johnson
10. Evander Holyfield
11. Sonny Liston
12. Jack Dempsey
13. Jim Jeffries
14. Harry Willis
15. Floyd Patterson
16. Sam Langford
17. Ezzard Charles
18. Jersey Joe Walcott
19. Max Schemling

Without rating active fighters, with his brother of course being rated higher.

 

True,

and I agree that he should lose some points for quitting against Byrd. But some people use this single performance to sum up his whole career, and that's a tad unfair.

 

i agree, vitali does have a horrid resume. it's hard to argue otherwise. H2H he's a monster right there at the top.

Archie moore never beat patterson. he was knocked out by him.

 

Hey Jab. GOod thread. Before I go I wanna also point out a couple of things.

1- When Rahman was actually still a decent fighter,Vitali pulled out of the Rahman fight 4 straight times in 1 year. That's a bit suspicious and odd?
4 times in one year.


2-Vitali did admit he took steriods when he was younger? He just said that he 'didn't know what it was'


3- I think Haye will beat Vitali now and possibly tko6 him. A great end to his legacy.

 

Top 15 atg hewyveight ? NO, top 20 yes and he's definitely top 10 h2h.

 

I proved you wrong and now you're dodging it. I don't care about Vitali, but no it is not a fact, just an opinion. Just like you said so yourself.

 

Why do you need 5 reasons. How about he's just not that good and his resume sucks. Ditto for Wladimir.