Top 5 Ring IQ ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by KidPerat, Jul 28, 2012.


  1. FelixTrinidad

    FelixTrinidad Boxing Addict banned

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    LMFAO
    :patsch:lol::lol::lol:

    Your post is almost as dumb as the post you were answering to

    lmfao
    :lol::lol:. Chef though is still more intelligent then that Floyd nut hugger

    still lmfao. What a post
     
  2. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Ok but what happens when that plan doesn't work out so well and you have to find another way to win?
     
  3. KidPerat

    KidPerat King Bee Full Member

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  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad's got a hell of a ring IQ. He's lost what, maybe 8 rounds total since he faced Byrd the second time around? Physical superiority alone doesn't do that for you when you're fighting a variety of styles all gameplanning to beat you. A ton of work goes in to making it look that easy.
     
  5. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :finger
     
  6. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    FINALLY... another guy that gets it:happy
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    What exactly was that?

    Having Game planes is not a symptom of Ring IQ. It's a symptom of preparation. The ability to adapt, and be spontaneous (One step ahead of your opponent, creative, etc) within the ring is a display of ring IQ. Implementing a game-plan requires a certain amount of Ring IQ but as an other poster said. Wlad fights basically the same in every fight and has such great physical advantages and a superb skill to judge distance/range that he doesn't have to show or display anything new or different. Notice how I complimented a great skill of Wlad which (With his physical advantages) allows him to fight the same (AKA basic but good).

    Either way, in some sense planned strategies is almost the opposite of true Ring IQ. For analogy sake, having chess knowledge may help you beat an opponent but it doesn't mean you have great tactical ability, talent, or skill. True Ring IQ is natural intuition. An ability to adapt, adjust, and be creative in subtle and nuanced ways that go beyond the game planes and strategies. Since Wlad is a safety first fighter because he frankly doesn't have any reason not to be, and since he's not a "natural fighter" as he describes himself he doesn't really a natural knack for elite Ring IQ in my honest opinion. What I've described of Wlad, which is him being intelligent can easily be confused for being the same as Ring IQ. They are not the same. Since Vitali is more of a natural I suspect he probably has superior Ring IQ.

    To get a sense of what I'm saying study or look up someone like Charley Burley. In today's game, I'd rank guys like Marquez, Hopkins, Ward, Mayweather, and maybe Martinez or Vitali.
     
  8. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Wlad and Steward are more prepared than Booth & Haye, but I would suspect Haye probably has just as good if not a better ring IQ than Wlad. He actually tries more sophisticated things tactically like setting traps. Don't confuse dominance for genius.
     
  9. bailey

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    Cant say for the fighters past 25 years ago but... In no order

    De La Hoya
    Mayweather
    Calzaghe
    Marquez

    Theres 4 and not saying they are a top 4, but they spring to mind. Although I think Hopkins is a clever fighter, I dont think he can change plan half way through so much, just comes in with good plans which he acts out
     
  10. Champion

    Champion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad and Vitali are true ring generals. They know exactly how to shut their opponents down and barely lost a round in the last years, hell in their whole careers.

    They frustrate their opponents with patience til they eventually knock them out when they feel like it = Ring IQ
     
  11. pecho26

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    AHAHAHAHaHAHaHaH calzaghe?!?!?!?!?!
    AHaHHAhAahAHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    He was a overprotected bum.
     
  12. JMP

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    ...and Mike Jones, Jermain Taylor, Michael Katsidis, etc.
     
  13. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    I'd add Victor Ortiz and Brandon Rios ! :yep:deal
     
  14. KidPerat

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    Ring IQ isn't measured by someone's ability to improvise. If you know what you're going to do before hand and you do it, you had an intelligent game plan to begin with- you don't need to deviate from it.

    Wlad is a student of the game. I'll say it again, he's like a Brady or Manning. He studies the game, has a plan and executes it.

    I don't want to turn this into a Wlad nut hugger thread because I don't hug anyone's nuts. If you guys disagree with my list fine. Make you're own...
     
  15. Hattons Hook

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    Stephen " Bonecrusher " Hawkins