I'll probably end up swapping this about, and I can remove the bareknuckle guys if you want. (A couple of these are pretty terrible people, their placement reflects a fascination more than an endorsement) 1. Joe Louis 2. Jack Sharkey 3. Jersey Joe Walcott 4. George Dixon 5. Tommy Ryan 6. Jimmy Wilde 7. Owen Moran 8. Jem Carney 9. Bob Fitzsimmons 10. William Stevens 11. Tommy Loughran 12. John Henry Lewis 13. James J Jeffries 14. Jem Belcher 15. Harry Greb 16. Ezzard Charles 17. Kid Lavigne 18. Packey McFarland 19. Jack Broughton 20. Kid McCoy 21. Joe Gans 22. Jimmy Britt 23. Rocky Marciano 24. Floyd Patterson 25. Jack Johnson 26. Mickley Walker 27. Henry Armstrong 28. Josh Taylor 29. Terry McGovern 30. Jack Dempsey 31. Jack McAuliffe 32. Joe Walcott 33. Young Griffo 34. Lennox Lewis 35. George Milsom (I never claimed to be sane)
I thought @George Crowcroft might have as well. Crazy career, nearly half his opponents were HOFers, and the first Gans' fight was one of the craziest in history.
Dyed in the wool racist from a family of racists who made the most absurd demands of the champion in a real show of white privilege including: the fight would be in his hometown; they would do 133lbs at ringside; he would choose the referee - who he then attacked
Like I said, it was more based on fascination than admiration in a lot of cases I think you'd have a hard time arguing he was a worse person than Kid McCoy or Billy Papke
Well Papke was a violent psychopath - but not one who employed gamesmanship. There was something sneaky and creepy about Britt for me. That said, these lists are all about purely personal opinions aren't they? There are millions of people who wind up "fans" of serial killers ffs.
You're right, Matt. He's in the wrong thread - he should have been included in the other thread about good examples outside the ring.
No, that's fine. I was originally considering placing such a limitation, but ultimately decided the only requirement was that they competed professionally.
DEADLINE is exactly 3 weeks from this post. 1. salsanchezfan #7 2. McGrain #8 3. lookatcurryman #9 4. TipNom #10 5. Quick Cash #13 6. CharlieFirpo85 #14 7. Ioakeim Tzortzakis #15 8. George Crowcroft #16 9. The Fighting Yoda #17 10. TheMikeLake #20 (WIP) 11. lufcrazy #22 12. Seamus #25 13. Saintpat #27 14. HDmexiqtioner #34 15. William Walker #37 16. sweetsci #44 17. ChrisJS #50 18. Gudetama #53 19. Young Terror #54 20. Noel857 #56 21. Jel #57 (WIP) 22. Sweetfiend #58 23. rapscalion #59 24. BitPlayerVesti #61
That is perfectly fine. I haven't recorded any of the lists yet, so feel free to switch around. I'll let everyone know once I've began data collection, and at that point I will keep running tallies of whose lists have been logged. At THAT point, if anyone makes any changes before the deadline, that's OK too. Just please let me know if you do after that point, and that goes for everyone.
Let's give this a try. 1. Roy Jones Jr. 2. Vitali Klitschko 3. Tomasz Adamek 4. James Toney 5. Oleksandr Usyk 6. Kryzstof Wlodarczyk 7. Evander Holyfield 8. Ray Leondard 9. Muhammed Ali 10. Fırat Arslan 11. George Foreman 12. Manny Pacquaio 13. Floyd Patterson 14. Terrence Crawford 15. Timothy Bradley 16. Steve Cunningham 17. Marco Antonio Barrera 18. Jerry Quarry 19. Roman Gonzalez 20. Wladimir Klitschko 21. Chris Byrd 22. Dwight Qawi Muhammad 23. Juan Carlos Gomez 24. Willie Pep 25. Sonny Liston 26. Lamon Brewster 27. Jose Luis Castillo 28. Nonito Donaire 29. Pernell Whittaker 30. Andy Lee 31. Gennady Golovkin 32. Julian Jackson 33. Larry Holmes 34. Thomas Hearns 35. Andre Ward
1. Evander Holyfield 2. Joe Frazier 3. Muhammad Ali 4. Roy Jones Jr. 5. Larry Holmes 6. Roberto Duran 7. Iran Barkley 8. Erik Morales 9. Manny Pacquaio 10. Bernard Hopkins 11. Julio Caesar Chavez Sr. 12. Lennox Lewis 13. Bert Cooper 14. James Toney 15. Mike Tyson 16. Dwight Muhammad Qawi 17. Marvin Hagler 18. Chris Byrd 19. Arturo Gatti 20. Jesse Ferguson 21. Chris Eubank, Sr. 22. George Foreman 23. Tim Bradley 24. Terry Norris 25. Juan Manuel Marquez 26. Ray Robinson 27. Max Baer 28. Ray Mercer 29. Alexis Arguello 30. Randall Cobb 31. Ray Leonard 32. Lamon Brewster 33. Marco Antonio Barrera 34. Earnie Shavers 35. Roman Gonzalez