Top 50 all time head to head under 200lb

It's the perfect tournament to underline just how good Sam was. I could not discount him beating Dempsey, Louis or Marciano, particularly the Rock as Sam would be reloading that cannonball uppercut. He has the power, durability and generalship to create disaster.

Johnson never fought the juggernaut version of Sam though I've always fancied his style (at his best) to win a decision.

P. Jackson would likely do better than what most suspect.

 

what is the order of your list based on? and why isn't harold johnson on that list? he beats louis IMO

 

Suszie Q, I ask the same questions again:

I agree with your conclusions about match ups amongst the absolute eliits SQ.

But what about other HWs who were still very good when coming up & young, though pre-prime, before they reached their full size. Surely (If I may call you Shirley...) Ali could easily crack the top 50 ibefore he hit 200.

What about Frazier? At his peak he was a good 205. He must have had some very good fights on the other side of 200, right?

How about other HW contenders in The GOlden age, before they got bigger/hit a critical mass in the 80's? Quarry?

I understand this considers PEAK efficacy, not total accomplishments or record even at this catch weight.

 

Good list. I might give honorable mention to John Henry Lewis, Paul Berlenbach, and Maxie Rosenbloom.

 

Huh, Frazier was peak at not much over 200, but had no good fights under 200? Unusual, but OK. aIt is a good list.

You do not think we know enough about John L. Sullivan to put him on the list, & well up on it?

 

Huh, Frazier was peak at not much over 200, but had no good fights under 200? Unusual, but OK. it is a good list.

You do not think we know enough about John L. Sullivan to put him on the list, & well up on it? DWas he not great & in shape under 2 bells?

 

It is a pretty terrific list .. order is obviously subject to opinion but almost all of the big guys were there ..

 

I pick a prime John L Sullivan to beat all of these.

 

He contradicted that statement several times.

And did he not consider Slade, a half Maori, at least somewhat pigmented?

 

Somewhat pigmented.That's good,I like that!

 

Johnson is there #17

No way he beats Louis though IMO