Top 50 Lightweights of All-Time.... (help me)

Cheers! I'd like to set this straight before I start doing bigger numbers, that Angott is actually my favourite lightweight ever. Well, him or Laguna, I go back and forth. So if they're a little higher than anybody thinks they deserve, that's probably why.

And like I said, I can see a lot of change in the top 15.

While I can definitely see the logic in this, I actually feel like it cheapens guys in most cases. Weird as that may sound.

For example, if I'm ranking Arguello, I'm ranking him on everything at the poundage, and basically nothing else. That means he'll end up about 35, and I think that's unfair. I'd rather have him top three at 130, and spare him from being rated below guys like Carlos Teo Cruz, or As Wolgast when he was clearly better than them. Just me though, as it seems in this thread.

I am consistent though, I haven't included Chavez, Mayweather, Ross or Pacqiuao. And I probably won't include Mosley, Crawford and Marquez in the final draft.

 

Yep, top three at 140, with Ross and Cervantes.

Sure thing.

I tend to see 'longevity' as fighting around the top of your division for extensive periods. Even if you're not the best, being world level for 5, 10 or 15 is very impressive IMO. 'Consistency' is just how little you lose. 'Dominance' is the manor of winning and how easy it was or wasn't.

I happen to find long periods of time at the top more impressive than squeaky clean records. Now, those with all three (Joe Louis, or Duran at 135), are very impressive to me. Just not as impressive as those with all three, and a better résumé (Ali, or Leonard at 135).

 

Well that's shame man

I was interested in your thoughts on guys like Ambers and Ross, since I know you've read a lot about those guys.

 

Ha! I want that official historian title, man. Need a top fifty all over for that! I'm also a bit of list fanatic.

Funny story, actually. Well, it's not that funny really, just a little peak behind the curtain and a nice little look of how my mind works. I actually don't think Whitaker achieved enough at 135 to be top 10, or even top 15 but how can he not be, right? Just watching him dismantle everybody, and that I'd only pick Duran to beat him, on top of just how damn good he in the ring, means I couldn't not have him. So that's when I tweaked the criteria to add in the 'eye test'. That's also what sent Duran above McFarland.

But seriously, the division is so deep, I won't argue too profusely for anything other than stupid stuff like Lomachenko at number five.

Interesting choice. I dunno who'd go with yet, but it wouldn't have been Wes. I do agree that his record is very deep, and I think he's excellent, but not top twenty excellent.

My pick for best résumé there is far from set in stone, but I'd give a nice little shout to Rocky Kansas.

Yep, he's there. He's actually the last name. He was also number sixteen on my first draft; barely missing the mark.

 

Britt is in my notes for top 25, I love his résumé although there are some astrix's.

Yeah, I rank those guys at other weights.

 

@McGrain @Tin_Ribs

I don't really have the best grips on the lightweights in the mid 50s. The contenders between Brown and Carter, care to help a guy out?

 

Yeah, I have. I've actually read that whole thread.