Top 50 punchers 1930-1960 at Heavyweight Division

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I’ll continue with some revised lists I made in the past about this era. I do plan on making a non heavyweight list in the future.

    Criteria:

    1. One Punch Power
    2. Overall Punching Skills
    3. Finishing Ability
    4. Strength of Opposition Knocked Out


    1. Joe Louis-
    2. Sonny Liston-
    3. Rocky Marciano-
    4. Max Baer-
    5. Max Schmeling-
    6. Ingemar Johansson-
    7. Floyd Patterson-
    8. Jersey Joe Walcott-
    9. Archie Moore-
    10. Ezzard Charles-
    11. Elmer Ray
    12. Hatchetman Sheppard-
    13. Bob Satterfield-
    14. Turkey Thompson-
    15. Buddy Baer
    16. Cleveland Williams
    17. Lem Franklin
    18. Clarence Henry
    19. Tony Galento-
    20. George Godfrey
    21. Eddie Machen
    22. Tommy Gomez
    23. Nino Valdes
    24. Lee Savold
    25. Charley Retzlaff
    26. Henry Cooper-
    27. John Holman
    28. Harry Bovo
    29. Lou Nova
    30. Earl Walls
    31. Lee Q Murray
    32. Rex Layne
    33. Mike Dejohn-
    34. Pat Comiskey
    35. Abe Simon
    36. Primo Carnera
    37. Bruce Woodcokk
    38. Al Hart
    39. Leroy Haynes
    40. Tami Mauriello
    41. Fitzie Fitzpatrick
    42. Tiger Jack Fox
    43. Sid Peaks
    44. Joe Bygraves
    45. Buddy Walker
    46. Hein Ten Hoff
    47. Dan Bucceroni
    48. Rusty Payne
    49. Obie Walker
    50. Lorenzo Pack
     
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  2. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a solid effort on an almost impossible task. The top three would be my top three. Considering that punching power per punch is almost impossible to rate, I myself would have moved Marciano to the 2nd spot because he knocked out more top men (for example, 4 of your top 10), but this is a minor quibble.

    Another minor quibble, I might flip Ray and Thompson. Seems to me Thompson stopped more good men.

    Godfrey--He seems to belong to the 1920's rather than the 1930-1960 era.

    Tommy Gomez--should drop a few notches. It wasn't his fault, but he was a white fighter campaigning in the South at a time mixed matches weren't allowed. I believe he only fought two black fighters, Walcott & Satterfield, and lost to both of them. His KO record is good enough to earn him a place, but I might flip him with John Holman, who had KO's over Ezzard Charles, Elmer Ray, Bob Satterfield, Boardwalk Billy Smith, and Cesar Brion (the only one to stop Brion). Few mere contenders can match that list. The bottom line with Gomez is I don't think his victims stack up with the victims of Holman, Valdes, and Savold, and I think he should rate behind all of them.

    The guys down near the bottom of the list are interesting. Joe Bygraves is a good pick. He always seemed able to pop back up with a surprising KO win when he seemed finished.

    All I can say is I can't think of anyone who should have made this list and didn't.

    It will be interesting to see how your putting Carnera on this list will play with the rest of the board. He did win the title by KO'ing a champion.
     
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  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    People of that era rave about Gomez as a puncher. He actually made the ring magazines top 100 punchers of all time list

    I’m not sold on carnera as a big puncher with all of the alleged fixed fights and him pushing his punches a lot on film
     
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  4. reznick

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    Great list! Like ed said, it must’ve been a very difficult task, and it’s interesting to look through so thank you for your effort.

    I ask this because I feel like Carnera has his own set of standards:
    Are there other boxers you can think of who “push” their punches like Carnera? And do you think Vitali Klitschko was an overall sharper boxer and puncher than Carner?
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't rate Carnera as a puncher calling him an average one is paying him a compliment ,imo.