Top 55 Fighters, All Time

Oh of course. You know Evander....its all about the kids...:hey

I will work on a list tonight, after I get my daughter to sleep...post it later or tomorrow (in case I pass out with her).

As for his HW rank, I have him 7...and there is absolutely no way to argue him being #1 at CW, so Im glad we FINALLY agree on something.

 

I too had Pac/JMM I as a draw and II as a win for JMM. However objectively speaking, he has beaten some very good fighters and it's hard to argue his 3 Lineal titles. I wouldn't have him top 55, but certainly top 100, probably top 70. His limitations are made up for with his tenacity and heart. And of course his power and speed.

 

Inconsistency can be a damaging aspect for a fighters legacy, but it can also be a good thing. I suppose it depends exactly when a certain fighter is being inconsistent. Throughout his entire career? only when past his prime? That all needs to be taken into account.

An inconsistent fighter is being defeated regularly, obviously. But part of the territory which comes inconsistency is the ability to shine when least expected. And thats an impressive feat for any fighter, amatuer or pro, journeyman or elite ATG.

Ali and Louis are probably the best examples. Ali won the heavyweight title three times because he was inconsistent, throughout the 70's especially. Louis on the otherhand reigned longer than Ali did, but he never fought the same quality of opposition. Not IMO anyway. Thats probably why Louis was more consistent than Ali.

If Louis was around during the 60's and 70's would he have reigned for 11 years. Doubtful.

 

true if i'd put him in a list probably say in the 75 above range, he was poor in skills but when it comes to acheivement he's already there plus the fact that asia produce only a few great fighters who would possibly end up as an ATG.

 

I saw some other peoples list and tyson was somewhere between the 50 range but i did disagree a bit due to lack of competition

 

no marciano

 

Nice list McGrain. I will give it a go before gotta get to bed, ****ing Chemistry. :twisted:

1. Henry Armstrong
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Harry Greb
4. Willie Pep
5. Sam Langford
6. Roberto Duran
7. Muhammad Ali
8. Ezzard Charles
9. Archie Moore
10. Benny Leonard
11. Carlos Monzon
12. Joe Louis
13. Jimmy Wilde
14. Joe Gans
15. Sugar Ray Leonard
16. Gene Tunney
17. Eder Jofre
18. Pernell Whitaker
19. Mickey Walker
20. Sandy Saddler
21. Alexis Arguello
22. Rocky Marciano
23. Barney Ross
24. Evander Holyfield
25. Roy Jones Jr.
26. Marvin Hagler
27. Michael Spinks
28. Julio Ceasar Chavez
29. Salvador Sanchez
30. Fighting Harada
31. Bernard Hopkins
32. Wilfredo Gomez
33. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
34. Bob Foster
35. Tony Canzeroni
36. "Barbados" Joe Walcott
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Abe Attell
39. Erik Morales
40. Jack Johnson
41. Emille Griffith
42. Ricardo Lopez
43. Jack Dempsey
44. Ike Williams
45. Carlos Ortiz
46. Kid Chocolate
47. Marco Antonio Barrera
48. Maxie Rosenbloom
49. Jack "nonperial" Dempsey
50. Charley Burley (forgot, should be about 15-20 spots higher but **** it I am tired and don't feel like changing it now)
51. Wilfredo Benitez
52. Oscar De La Hoya
53. Joe Frazier
54. Manny Pacquiao
55. Lennox Lewis

*edit* forgot Ted Kid Lewis, Jose Napoles, and possibly Freddie Miller

 

Uggghh time for me to google sam langford

 

i am also kinda bias when it comes to tyson so somehow i would like the guy to be in a top 100 list:yep, but i do agree about his wins.

 

Solid picks in there, though the order is a bit odd for my taste past a certain point. And yes, no doubt Napoles needs to be in there.

 

Fighting Harada is the most overlooked ATG ever. This guy was a beast. Top 35 cemented ATG

I would put Napoles around 38, maybe as high as 30.

 

Solid lists in this thread havent seen a bad one, just a few small tweeks here and there.

These things are mind hurting to make, hope you guys get bored enough to make a top 100 someday.