Top 55 Fighters, All Time

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  1. JAM Killer

    JAM Killer Coming Through. Full Member

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    Joe Louis has to be higher than 16. Has to be.
     
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  2. Sweet Pea

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    Why?
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, why?

    I've actually moved him down since, by one spot, so make it #17.
     
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  4. Holmes' Jab

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    Right here you go, I've thought over about my list. Haven't got it quite to 50 yet. Here would be my Top 30 P4P:

    1. Henry Armstrong
    2. Sugar Ray Robinson
    3. Harry Greb
    4. Sam Langford
    5. Ezzard Charles
    6. Mickey Walker
    7. Barney Ross
    8. Joe Louis
    9. Sugar Ray Leonard
    10. Muhammad Ali
    11. Benny Leonard
    12. Pernell Whitaker
    13. Roberto Duran
    14. Willie Pep
    15. Bob Fitzsimmons
    16. Barbados Joe Walcott
    17. Archie Moore
    18. Gene Tunney
    19. Joe Gans
    20. Roy Jones Jr
    21. Marvin Hagler
    22. Julio Cesar Chavez
    23. Kid Gavilan
    24. Alexis Arguello
    25. Sandy Saddler
    26. Jimmy Wilde
    27. Emile Griffith
    28. Charley Burley
    29. Larry Holmes
    30. Tommy Hearns
     
    Holmes' Jab, Apr 16, 2008
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  5. rusticraver

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    Duran is my number one, countless decades. unbelievable achievements
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think it's a great list. Griffith & Gavlin above Burley is a little hard to swallow, but you can make arguments. Hagler is far, far to high, what possible reasoming exsists for having him above Jimmy Wilde, for example? Pep is a bit low for my liking.

    Nice list though.
     
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  7. Smith

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    I could not put Loi beneath Ortiz. I cant see it.
     
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  8. King Dan

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    Roy Jones in the top 25 is laughable.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    You're well into your Lois just now aren't you?

    The case is there though. Ortiz was essentially a lightweight when he dropped what may have been a hometown decision to Loi. Keeping in mind that Ortiz had nothing but good to say about the man, 1-1-1 may have been a fairer reflection - but it's not neccesary to make the transformation to make the case.

    Ortiz lost more but he also fought and beat more great fighters. His Lightweight run includes Laguna, Elorde, Ramos...even during his comeback he was on a run before Kenny Buchanan stepped up to stop his run, even then it took a great.

    Oriz is a lighweight and Loi's best years were at 147 - Ortiz has the better resume, and the trilogy is very close. This is where the case lies.
     
    McGrain, Apr 16, 2008
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well you can stop laughing at the guys who have him in the top 25 until you've sorted out the guys who have them in the top 1.
     
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  11. Fedor Em

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    Many have Ortiz above Loi, myself included. For reasons you stated. Deeper resmue.
     
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  12. Holmes' Jab

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    Honerable mentions go to: Ike Williams, Carlos Monzon, Jose Napoles, Stanley Ketchel and Tony Canzoneri.
     
    Holmes' Jab, Apr 16, 2008
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Oh, ****, yeah, Canzoneri...you can't have a top 30 without Canzoneri bro. Seriously. I missed it.
     
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  14. Sweet Pea

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    What possible reasoning exists for having Jimmy Wilde as high as most have him? I understand he fought bigger men, but the level of competition was not stellar, and is **** poor compared to other ATG's.
     
    Sweet Pea, Apr 16, 2008
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  15. Imperial1

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    Mayweather over Hagler ????:patsch
     
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