Top fighters: then and now..

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  1. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is for all the young boxing fans who are getting a daily dose of this
    "weak era" propaganda on this site.
    it's time for a little shock therapy! a picture is worth a thousand words

    this is the Ring magazine's top fighters of today and the top from around october 1974...

    2010 1974
    #1Waldimir Klitschko /George Foreman
    55-3-0 /40-0-0
    #2Vitali Klitschko /Muhammad Ali
    40-2-0 /46-2-0
    #3David Haye /Joe Frazier
    23-1-0 /31-2-0
    #4Tomasz Adamek /Ken Norton
    41-1-0 /33-3-0
    #5Alexand Povetkin /Jerry Quarry
    19-0-0 /46-6-4
    #6Ruslan Chagaev/ Ron Lyle
    26-1-1 /28-1-1
    #7Denis Boytsov /Oscar Bonavaena

    26-0-0 /56-9-1
    #8Nikolai Valuev /Jimmy Eills
    50-2-0 /38-10-1


    Now after we get by the 38-10-1 Eills, the 70's division falls way off
    with Henry Clark [29-8-3] at #9, Jose Luis Garcia [39-6-1] at #9,
    back this up by human punching bag Chuck Wepner at #10,
    and the only fighter Wepner ever beat twice, Randy Numan at #11.
    today #9,#10, are held down by Alexander Dimitrenko and Chris Arreola.
    :hi:
     
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  2. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Whats the point of this thread again? Al li saw is how much better the '74 HW division is than todays...
     
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  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    When someone says this is a weak era for Heavyweight's, in my case anyway, I'm not comparing or don't need to compare them to a different era. Fact is...this is a weak era for Heavyweight's outside of the top 3-4 guys, regardless of what the division has been like in past years.
     
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  4. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Chuck Wepner would kick Sasha Dimitrenko's ass.
     
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  5. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    And people will still argue....

    Ring in Eastern European bias conspiracy...
     
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  6. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Match any of the 74's with their modern day counterpart and you have a 74's win.
     
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  7. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    I like the Klitschko brothers and root for them but the Klit fans really expose themselves badly when they stupid **** like Arreola, Ibragimov and Chagaev would be a top 10 HW in any other HW era.
     
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  8. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Im actually not sure youve made any type of point here at all TBH

    The bros and David Haye make a fight with Frazier very interesting in 74 , Ali was shot but had a little left in the tank , and Foreman was Foreman , i mean what are you getting at .

    No doubt these greats mentioned in the thread all sit way above the modern HW's in there AT status , but man i gotta be honest any of them in 74 would IMO have a hard nights work against the top 4 HW's today ...........
     
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  9. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You've rather shot yourself in the foot here because not one of the modern fighters could be considered the favourite.
    Also it's weird that you slag off Wepner and mention Arreola as he's anything even approaching decent.
     
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  10. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Haye vs Frazier interesting?
    If you think a non competitive 3 rd TKO/KO interesting - then yes I agree with you.
    There is nothing in Haye resume or style to say that it could be "interesting."

    Adamek is on the same boat. While I will give the Klits the benefit of a doubt, I don't see them winning against Foreman, maybe with Ali because he is way pass his prime and such. Even then Adamek can't win against those 4 guys.
     
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  11. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i've never seen anyone say that.. but if they did, then :yikes
     
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  12. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    haye and both klitschko's knock out the 74 version of frazier.
     
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  13. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    1976 version? Maybe.
    1975 version? Probably not
    1974 version? No
     
    crimson, Sep 30, 2010
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  14. horst

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    This thread has most definitely underlined for me just how weak this era is compared to the 70s. The 70s fighter is better in every instance than the 00s fighter you named. What a titanic fail!! :lol::patsch
     
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  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I saw Quarry and Povotkin in the same spot, and immediately envisioned the blood letting a Quarry/Povotkin fight would produce:hey And for once it would not be Jerry doin' the bleedin':nono
     
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