Top Fighters: They Are All Guilty Of It...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Nov 1, 2009.


  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    How many top prime fighters has Pacquiao face? I'm curious. Marquez at 35? 1 dimensional not very good Hatton? (imo)
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    So JMM wasnt a top fighter when Pac fought him is that what you're saying?
     
  3. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    I meant (prime) top fighters. Marquez was a top fighter but wasn't in his prime. Before facing Pacquiao in the rematch, Marquez barely beat an over the hill Barrera.
     
  4. Schmapps

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    :lol:
     
  5. horst

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    - Barrera in their 1st fight was prime
    - In both fights Marquez was prime
    - Hatton was prime (he's finished now, but he was finished by Pac)
    - Morales in their 2nd fight was the same man who beat Pac in their 1st fight, past-prime but still a world-class fighter
     
  6. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    - If Marquez was prime in the rematch then he should have easily beat an over the hill Barrera correct?

    - I never consider Hatton has a very good fighter to begin with.


    - Morales proved he wasn't the same fighter when he fought Raheem in which Morales got outbox badly. The reason why Morales fought Raheem at lightweight cause Morales was having trouble making at 130 pounds. Whyelse Morales legs were gone in the Pacquiao rematch?
     
  7. nick dio

    nick dio Member Full Member

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    safe to conclude that haters shall always be haters & huggers shall always be huggers & never the twain shall meet!
     
  8. horst

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    - Marquez had the two best wins of his career AFTER the second fight with Pacquiao

    - You didn't consider Hatton very good? Fair enough, but I don't think in the greater scheme of things that your opinion carries more weight than Hatton's The Ring belt, number 1 rating and unbeaten record at the weight he fought Pac at

    - Morales lost to Raheem because Morales was too small for lightweight (he lost to David Diaz at that weight too, Morales's peak was at superbantam, he should never have fought at 135) and Raheem was a very bad stylistic match for him, and I think he was a bit demotivated for Raheem after the high-profile nature of fighting Pac and Barrera. If you actually watch the second fight with Pac, Morales fights the same as he did in the first - it is Pacquiao who is different. Stronger, more muscled, smarter and sharper, more motivated and determined
     
  9. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    I can't believe the TS will compare Shane's balls to Mayweather.

    When was the last time Mayweather fought somebody in a high risk, low reward situation? I like to know.

    Because I am sure Shane did that thing not only once in his career. I have yet to see Mayweather do that act.
     
  10. pretty boy

    pretty boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A bit critical there pal. IMO the man is right.
     
  11. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    What's your problem with Mosley? Have you seen his resume? Why should he have to fight high risk/low reward fights (Williams, Clottey) at this point?

    Now if it was Floyd you would say it's just made business sense, but if it's Mosley he's ducking. Why don't you be critical of Floyd not fighting Williams? Doesn't Williams want that fight?
     
  12. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    - True but Marquez fought an even fight vs past his prime Casa until the tko Happen. Marquez was in a row with Juan Diaz. The same Diaz in reality did lose to feather fisted Paulie.


    -Ring magazine don't mean nothing to me. It's just i'm the only one that sees something nobodyelse see and that's Hatton was never a very good fighter to begin eith.


    -If Morales wasn't a shot fighter, he would have easily beat Raheem regardless of Raheem slick style. There is a reason why Pacquiao change his style of that fight of Raheem vs Morales. It's not cause Morales is a smaller fighter that Raheem beat. Morales in everyone eyes beat David Diaz at lightweight.
     
  13. Carver

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    what about what Marquez did to juan diaz after he fought pac.