Top fighters whose sparring partners were better than their opponents

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  1. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had a random thought.

    Jack Dempsey often used sparring partners, who were better than his challenger.

    A century later David Haye would do the same.

    Both were animals in sparring.

    These were tough and strategic fighters.

    For contrast somebody like Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali, probably couldn't have found a sparring partner better than their opponent, because they were fighting the very best.

    Other examples?
     
  2. JackSilver

    JackSilver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holmes says that he was beating up Ali in sparring by the time of the Foreman fight which is why Ali got rid of him.
     
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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Greb hiding Dempsey in Benton Harbor comes to mind.
     
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  4. Grapefruit

    Grapefruit Active Member Full Member

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    McClellan comes to mind, he did use to spar with Thomas hearns and James toney
     
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  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Sure there are many candidates for this and we’ll never know they all. Interesting topic. I just read somewhere that a young Marciano used to spar Kid Gavilin and he learned a ton from him. Did anyone ever hear this ?
     
  6. El Hans

    El Hans Left Cross Full Member

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    Arguably you could say George Foreman was Sonny's toughest opponent inside the ring it goes both ways if we dont include Ali.
     
  7. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I could believe that. Which makes it even stranger as to why Ali talked himself into a galactic ass-whupping against Holmes later on.
     
  8. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Active Member Full Member

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    News to me.Hurricane Jackson was a spar mate for Rocky.
     
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  9. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chiquita Gonzalez often prepared for fights by sparring his friend, Melchor Cob Castro. They also fought each other twice for world championships. In my opinion, their sparring was more heated than their fights.
     
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  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like Larry, he is brilliant for a story or quote, but he knows this is not the case.

    Ali, like some others, used sparring to get 'fight ready'. He wanted his partners to go for it, and offered little in return, he wanted his body to get as much as possible, ready for the pain of the fight. With hindsight that did not help his future health issues. This is fairly common knowledge, and Larry knows it.
     
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    amil.77 New Member Full Member

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    I think Wladimir Klitschko publicly said something to the effect that his sparring partners were tougher than Ray Austin.

    Ouch
     
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  12. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Active Member Full Member

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    Didn't Ali also give Larry a black eye when he cut loose which Larry was really proud of?
     
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