Top level fights low KO ratios??

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  1. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A typical top level boxer will have a KO ratio of 60-70 percent on the way up. Then the opposition gets better and the KOs go away.

    Let's look at all the good fights that just happened and WILL happen:

    PAC vs Vargas: decision
    Ward vs Kov: decision
    LOMA vs Walters: TKO (shocker)
    Gassiev vs Ledebev: decision

    Then we have:
    Cuellas vs mares: likely decision
    Charlo vs Williams: likely decision
    Bhop vs Snith: ?? Possible TKO?
    Jack vs Degale: likely decision
    Thurman vs Garcia: likely decision

    It appears that many high level fights go to the scorecards. Krusher Kov was unable to put away the very tricky and durable Chilemba. Bhop and Ward evaded the stoppage. Everyone else got beat up.

    Even Oscar during his reign at the top. He put away Vargas and Gatti. The rest went to decision! Same for Floyd, Manny.
     
  2. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In a lot of cases the big fights tend to cancel each other out hence a lower KO % plus you often need a decent chin to get to the top (obvious exceptions)
     
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  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Higher level fighters have better defense and/or chins. Otherwise they wouldn't be at the top.
     
  4. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have to take issue with DeGale Vs Jack.

    Jack won't make it to the second half of the fight.
     
  5. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jack worked Dirrel, Groves and Bute. He also took some of Butes best shots. I'm picking Degale but by 12 round decision
     
  6. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This, plus the fact that fighters are more cautious when facing top-level opposition.
     
  7. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Hopkins fight a possible ko? Hopkins hasn't had a ko in like 20 years and has the best chin in the business.

    Hopkins by UD is easy money
     
  8. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm just thinking that Bhop may have slowed tremendously. He's 51 and hasn't fought in 2 years.
     
  9. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's right. Knockouts against lesser competition don't mean much, and knockouts are simply overrated. Elite defenders rarely get knocked out. That's also why I love betting the over when punchers step up in class.
     
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  10. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In a nutshell, this. Usually unless you're a ferocious beast or animal (Kovalev, Beterbiev),
    or the rest of your division is a level below you in skillset (Golovkin, prime Wlad), the
    highlight reel ko's disappear when you're fighting the higher ranked guys.

    Even when you're a legit puncher (Thurman), most of the higher level
    guys may take punishment but know how to ride it out.
     
  11. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Boxers tend to commit to offence less the higher the opposition, with both wary of the others power, add to that top level fighters usually have good whiskers, and know how to survive when hurt, it stands to reason the % of KOs drops off the higher the quality of match-up. Ref less likely to step in to stop bouts early also, they give elite fighter a little longer to recover and that's often enough...
     
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  12. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Re Thurman I don't think we can say he's more than a very hard puncher, and his 'One-Time' nickname looks a bit ridiculous and arrogant on him since he's stepped up. He was only 'one-timing' no-hopers earlier in his career. If he was a Matthysse type knockout artist we'd be seeing more one-punch knockouts from him recently, but they haven't happened. At least someone like Gatti when he was a prospect gave himself the vaguer nickname 'Thunder'!
     
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