Top MMA fighter outboxed by 18 y.o Kid

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Caestus, Apr 19, 2011.


  1. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah that kid may have been boxing for 13 years already
     
  2. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Youth_World_Amateur_Boxing_Championships[/ame]
     
  3. Shogun Assassin

    Shogun Assassin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought Kharitonov would've learned from his k-1 stint to stck to mma :think.


    Anyway... these boxing vs mma threads are ******ed, please stop :smooch.
     
  4. Caestus

    Caestus Active Member Full Member

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    His major problem is his defense, he hasnt very good head movement, and his footwork is very lineary at this point.He is and unidimensional boxer, not very good with uppercuts, and body work combinations, and his hooks are arm punches with no power, and he is to slow.To beat him I think you must do a lot of lateral steps and pivoting, and throw overhand rights to contrarrest his jab and heigh.In close, a lot of body punching.
     
  5. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    That was a damn good fight.
     
  6. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    I see things very differently, but I may be wrong. It's frustrating to have to wait, but time will tell. I've been through the action of Diaz frame by frame of his last few fights. And I'm seeing some very nice flicking the elbow up to block punches, and rolling of his head when he gets hit. And being very good at not telegraphing his punches. can't wait to see him boxing
     
  7. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    the only problem is that Sergei Kharitonov was an amateur boxer. He has more than a little boxing experience. Unlike james toney or ray mercer in mma.

    Boxing career:
    Sergei started his Amateur Boxing Career in 2000. He tried to get into the Russian Olympic Boxing team but got injured in the semi finals during a live boxing TV event. Instead he competed for Tajikistan in 2003 at the Central Asian Games where he won a silver medal.[5] Kharitonov earned a shot at that year’s Olympics, representing former Tajikistan (the former Soviet republics often have ethnic Russians on their teams) but passed on the chance to instead fight in the Pride 2004 Heavyweight Grand Prix.

    He nearly qualified for the Athens Games by winning the silver medal at the 2004 Asian Amateur Boxing Championships in Puerto Princesa, Philippines. In the final he was defeated by Uzbekistan's Rustam Saidov. In the fall of 2004 he competed in the Russian Boxing Championship and placed second. Sergei could not fight in the final match due to an injury.[4]
    ....so his boxing ability is quite relevant.
     
  8. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No surprise here he was getting beat by arlovski too but arlovski just have a glass chin.
     
  9. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just the other day a guy told me that Diaz will have no problem stepping into boxing and doing fine against Champions.
     
  10. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    GTFO of the MMA section and go back to church !
     
  11. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Amen to that! :rofl
     
  12. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    yea man i agree with all the posts so far boxing is not mma, boxing is the sport of punching and arguably more technical in the skills of punching, mma is however in my opinion is about utilising the right tools of various other forms of martial arts such as karate, muay thai, bjj to defeat your opponent. Aesthetically speaking wise i prefer watching boxing however thats debatable as mma is great to watch when the bjj grappling, striking and heavy slams are performed. The lay and pray side especially noticeable in the fight with kenny florian vs gray maynard just makes me sleep. Sergei kharitonov is good however i was not impressed with his performance against Singh Jaideep in the k1 world grand prix 2010 that in my opinion was one of his worst performances.
     
  13. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    30 year old boxing champion gets defeated by 17 year old:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqOTGJmya9s[/ame]
     
  14. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I agree with your assessment on how to defeat Diaz, for the most part. As far as how well Diaz performs as a boxer, it is important to remember the context. Diaz has good boxing for MMA. That does not mean he is ready to box with the best boxers in the world.

    Let's use Track and Field for a comparison. Obviously, elite decathlon athletes are elite athletes. There is no disputing that. The 100 meter sprint is a part of the decathlon. While most decathletes, ok all, can outrun me in the 100; that doesn't mean they stand a chance against Usain Bolt. For those of you that don't know, Bolt is the fastest man ever at short distance. Elite sprinters make more than elete decathletes. Elite boxers make more than elite mma fighters. That does not mean elite sprinters can defeat elite decathlon athletes in a decathlon.
     
  15. Amrn4s

    Amrn4s Active Member Full Member

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    Good video. Thanks man.