Top Rank Does An Absolutely Terrible Job Promoting Their Up And Coming Young Talents.

the_bigunit · Mar 27, 2015

:deal

Cinderella Man · Mar 27, 2015

But Bap the Builder is working miracles with Pacquiao. I mean he made it seem like he actually was a legit champion in 8 weight classes. And you ****s believed it.

Mexi-Box · Mar 27, 2015

Cinderella Man said: ↑

But Bap the Builder is working miracles with Pacquiao. I mean he made it seem like he actually was a legit champion in 8 weight classes. And you ****s believed it.
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Not everything is about Pacquiao and Mayweather you effing re****! :roll:

DobyZhee · Mar 28, 2015

CST80 said: ↑

I'm not sold on either Magdaleno Brother but I do like Diego better then Jesse.
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Jesse is better than Diego

Bustajay · Mar 28, 2015

DobyZhee said: ↑

Jesse is better than Diego
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Nice post CST
Now DobyZhee I must say both brothers are solid but Diego has a better skill set and if matched up quickly he will be a star:happy:bbb:scaredas:

:smoke

CST80 · Mar 30, 2015

Bob's catching on and trying to complete with Haymon. Hopefully this will be successful and lead to more TV deals.

Beltran-Ao and Zewski-Ponomarev just landed on TruTV on May 1st:happy

southphillman · Mar 30, 2015

Wow what do you people want?
You get mad at Haymon for creating hype jobs. Now you are mad at Arum for bringing fighters along slowly and making them earn the publicity?

Xelloss · Mar 30, 2015

Boxing as a sport needs a streaming/video subscription service. That can both show live fights, and keep an archive.

Would only be subbed by hardcore fans, but would provide a good farm system. Could probably get enough subs (as long as had a Spanish portal) to hold weekly ESPN2 type cards though.

Reason I mention this: I see today the news TR signed some deal with TruTV. So I go and Google TruTV... and its some TV streaming site, and im like AH COOL. Then I go to watch something and see how it works... and I get "sign in through your cable provider"

WTF REALLY? They don't even have TWC as an option. WTF is TR thinking? Not only do you have to get milked by your garbage cable provider to get this internet TV channel, they don't even work with all the major providers.

Not exactly forward thinking by Top Rank.

Cinderella Man · Mar 30, 2015

Mexi-Box said: ↑

Not everything is about Pacquiao and Mayweather you effing re****! :roll:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4

Boxing Prospect · Mar 30, 2015

gramsey said: ↑

thing is his signed such good prospects, verdejo,mekhontsev,loma,murata, ramirez,valdez that they will almost certainly reach the top on talnt alone

and Murata only fights in asia and is huge their so he doesn't have to work hard with him

monaghan is limited and is only good to sell tickets his not going to reach the top
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According to the Japanese press Murata is likely to make his US debut in the Fall. Whilst he's a star in Japan the opponents happy to travel to Japan are relatively limited and he also can't fight for a world title in Japan unless he wins either the OPBF or Japanese title. He could win both of those easily but it would be a huge step backwards and see him facing a man he stopped on his debut.

CST80 · Aug 13, 2015

:deal

woombox · Aug 14, 2015

CST80 said: ↑

While I'm not Anti-Top Rank or Pro any other Promotions I find the whole this promotion is better than that promotion debate incredibly idiotic, but I just wanted to point out what an awful job they've been doing showcasing their hot new prospects.

Golden Boy has Golden Boy Live on Fox Sports 1 and Fox Deportes that they use specifically to promote their young talents and up until recently were regularly putting fighters on the Shobox The Next Generation cards. All great outlets to introduce us to the stars of the future. But Top Rank outside of Solo Boxeo on Unimas most of their talents rarely see the light of day on TV. They literally toil away on untelevised undercards or if they're really lucky PPV undercards until they've racked up 20 or so wins and they are foisted upon the audience as the next big thing by HBO, with most of the audience not knowing who the hell they are. They need some form of a TV farming system to build their stars before they make it to prime time.

A Few Examples:
Two of the hottest Eastern European Prospects there is currently are Oleksandr Gvozdyk and Egor Mekhontsev both have been virtually unseen they've been doing basically the same thing as Beterbiev and Khytrov, blasting every opponent out of the ring in impressive fashion, but they have none of the hype ...because no one has seen them. Bob could have two potential monster breakout stars in his roster but they are idling away on the untelevised undercards of Unimas Solo Boxeo and that's about it.

Jesse Hart will be on the May/Pac undercard no one knows who he is, and its doubtful he'll even make the televised portion either.

They have a ton of hot young Mexican and Mexican American prospects but none other than Gilberto Ramirez and Oscar Valdez is being seen by anyone. Jose Ramirez, Alex Saucedo, Ivan Najera, Julian Rodriguez, Jose Felix, Victor Pasillas, The Magdaleno Brothers and even Andy Ruiz to a certain extent, virtual unknowns all of them. When if given the proper outlet could all become potential earners due to the large Mexican American fanbase that's available to them.

Seanie Monaghan a limited but relatively exciting Light Heavyweight who's been around for awhile now and no one knows who he is in spite of his undefeated record, not being mentioned as a possible Kovalev opponent he's not even in the mix.

Mikael Zewski a very talented fighter from Canada, he's handsome and has a decent KO ratio is very marketable barely an afterthought, in fact most people have forgot he's a pro.

They've completely destroyed any momentum Ryota Murata had when he first turned pro, he's been pitted against below average opposition and has already been forgotten by many fans in spite of his status as a 2012 Gold Medalist.

Two exciting young fresh faced very talented EE fighters Konstantin Ponomarev and Egidijus Kavaliauskas just signed with them yet they're already afterthoughts.

Two of the Hottest Prospects
Felix Verdejo they seem to be on the right track with constantly showcasing him on Solo Boxeo and they are grooming him for an eventual shot on HBO hopefully they won't drop the ball like they did with this guy.

Jose Benavidez they ruined in many ways, he went from a relative unknown to the casuals and put him in the ring with the spoiler of all spoilers Mauricio Herrera, who even if you legitimately beat you look bad doing it. And he lost but was gifted a decision by corrupt judges. The fact that he really lost shouldn't have been a shock to anyone considering Herrera is the rightful Lineal Light Welterweight Champion of the World but was robbed in the Garcia match and then they robbed Herrera again of all things who was at the time a very sympathetic figure, so how did they think this would make Benavidez look good is beyond anyone comprehension.

But instead of investing in the future what do we get Top Rank trotting out washed up bordering on sad fighters who used to be stars like Donaire, Darchynian, Montiel, Alvarado, Beltran and Abregu draining them completely until they are completely worthless shot shells.

And then they are force feeding us hypejobs like Jessie Vargas, Evgeny Gradovich, and the most egregious example of all Zou Shiming. When they have little to no appeal at all, yet they get HBO slots left and right.

Well at least they still have Manny, Bradley, Marquez, and Brandon to milk to their last drop.

But to their credit they have done a relatively decent job with Terence Crawford, Nicholas Walters and Vasyl Lomachenko...... but who knows what the hell is going on with Mikey.:conf

Bob and his crew really need to get their s*** together in a big way they are sitting on quite a few potential money makers but they are being stifled due to their lack of exposure by their own promoters making. They need to find a better way of making new stars instead of just dropping them on everybody out of the blue like they tend to do most of the time.

Basically what I'm saying is they need to learn how to promote a little better.

Postscript: They did make a deal with TruTV....which hasn't amounted to much so far.:verysad
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Oleksandr Gvozdyk and Egor Mekhontsev still pretty much unsighted!

Xelloss · Aug 14, 2015

TR = shot promoter with shot fighters

except Crawford and Loma

and wtf why arent they both already signed to fight ffs?

Limerickbox · Aug 14, 2015

When you compare how Mekhontsev and Beterbiev have been handled, its amazing.

Beterbiev is already looking to world title fights, and Mekhontsev is being moved at a relative snails pace

woombox · Aug 17, 2015

Limerickbox said: ↑

When you compare how Mekhontsev and Beterbiev have been handled, its amazing.

Beterbiev is already looking to world title fights, and Mekhontsev is being moved at a relative snails pace
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Let's hope that the next wave of eastern block gun's turning pro take note and steer clear of Arum.

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