Top Rank Statement on Mayweather-Pacquiao

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  1. RossTheBoss

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    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=22331&more=1

    LAS VEGAS, NEV. (December 23, 2009) – To bleed, or not to bleed -- is that really the question?

    “More like Team Mayweather doth protest too much, methinks,” said Bob Arum, chairman of Top Rank, the promoter of seven-division world champion Manny Pacquiao..

    In response to the release sent out Tuesday by Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions which stated that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was “in jeopardy,” Arum had the following to say:

    “Let’s be very clear on the real issues we differ on. It’s not about being tested. Manny is onboard with that since it’s such a major concern of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. It’s about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures. Manny will submit to as many random urine tests requested. Regarding the blood tests, he will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny’s locker room. The major issue related to the testing rests with which independent agency will administer these tests. The United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous.

    “Our suggestion is to utilize any of the independent agencies that work with the National Football League, the National Basketball Association or Major League Baseball, since they administer drug testing for their professional athletes.”

    New York-based athletic physician, Dr. Keith Pyne, a private injury consultant for NFL athletes and those who participate in running and combat sports, told AOL Fanhouse, "I have more than 800 guys who are special athletes who are all drug-tested. And the urine testing is sufficient that you won't miss anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. So, yes, I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing. If you're using steroids, it's going to come up for sure in urine. There's no way it's going to get through the liver and the kidney without being detected."

    (http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/23/bob-arum-to-floyd-mayweather-stop-being-a-coward/?sms_ss=email)

    “If Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions are sincere in creating “a level playing field,” as they stated in their release, our recommendations should put their minds at ease,” said Arum. “If not, one has to wonder if their motives are more about leveling the fight.”
     
  2. BigReg

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    I think Arum makes a solid counterproposal. Have another independant agency do the testing. And have 3 blood tests, one before the press conference one right after the fight in his locker roon and one in between. I'm pretty sure they can work with that. Now Pacquiao had a mandatory blood test which checks for diseases done in late April a mere week or two before his fight with Hatton. With that in mind, he should be ok with doing a blood test closer to the fight than the 30 days that Arum is suggesting. If both parties keep an open mind, they should be able to settle this.
     
  3. johnnywalkitoff

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    Sounds like team pac is looking for a reasonable compromise. Waiting on Floyd. And this is how it will be until the beginning of January when the fight is signed and announced.
     
  4. jimcox88

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    why thirty days?
    would i be possible to have a shot straight after the second test and have it out your system for fight night?
     
  5. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    The testing team PAC wants is more then reasonable. It falls under all international guideline.
     
  6. bucktrain

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    This part says it all

    "Manny is onboard with that since it’s such a major concern of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. It’s about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures. Manny will submit to as many random urine tests requested. Regarding the blood tests, he will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny’s locker room."

    Someone is scared to fight.. If the fight does get made in the future this was a stupid tactic because you know that Pac is going to be pissed off and take it out on Floyd.
     
  7. Rooney

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    LAS VEGAS, NEV. (December 23, 2009) – To bleed, or not to bleed -- is that really the question? “More like Team Mayweather doth protest too much, methinks,” said Bob Arum, chairman of Top Rank, the promoter of seven-division world champion Manny Pacquiao. In response to the release sent out Tuesday by Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions which stated that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was “in jeopardy,” Arum had the following to say:

    “Let’s be very clear on the real issues we differ on. It’s not about being tested. Manny is onboard with that since it’s such a major concern of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. It’s about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures. Manny will submit to as many random urine tests requested. Regarding the blood tests, he will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny’s locker room.. The major issue related to the testing rests with which independent agency will administer these tests. The United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous.

    “Our suggestion is to utilize any of the independent agencies that work with the National Football League, the National Basketball Association or Major League Baseball, since they administer drug testing for their professional athletes.”

    New York-based athletic physician, Dr. Keith Pyne, a private injury consultant for NFL athletes and those who participate in running and combat sports, told AOL Fanhouse, "I have more than 800 guys who are special athletes who are all drug-tested. And the urine testing is sufficient that you won't miss anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. So, yes, I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing. If you're using steroids, it's going to come up for sure in urine. There's no way it's going to get through the liver and the kidney without being detected."

    (http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/23/bob-arum-to-floyd-mayweather-stop-being-a-coward/?sms_ss=email)

    “If Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions are sincere in creating “a level playing field,” as they stated in their release, our recommendations should put their minds at ease,” said Arum. “If not, one has to wonder if their motives are more about leveling the fight.”


    Finally they getting down to the bottom of it. I still dont like this window pac has information of. He shouldn't dictate when he has these tests and before what date.

    However we should agree for argument sake that it should not be the week of the fight!!! We dont want no excuses when pac loses, but one should be administered straight after the fight.

    This should be agreeable now for both parties. If this is NOW their position on the testing.


    :deal
     
  8. 1lehudson

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    So now Arum is changing his story. It kinda sounds like he is starting to come around, lets hope. But this is Arum and he does say one thing to the media then does another behind closed doors.

    I find is odd that the Pac camp is on full press defense here.
     
  9. GrCh

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    Sounds good to me ( Not a Mayweather adviser unfortunately ), let's get the fight signed already :deal
     
  10. Rooney

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    Me to. But man i aint gonna front i want so much to see this pac ass whooping.
    I will be pissed if this fight wont take place.

    Let just hope we can get these god damn contracts signed and everyone can have a good xmas.

    Because make no mistake pac is gonna get schooled. I wanna be telling my grand kids in years to come about that schooling.
     
  11. GrCh

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    I bet the fight will be announced soon.. I hope anyway :good
     
  12. Prescott_Fan

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    And Mayweather shouldn't dictate that blood tests take place when this is not standard practice in the sport, and he certainly shouldn't dictate that they have to be done by a certain agency and in a certain way.
     
  13. Rooney

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    But manny agreed to any drug testing once the allegation was made:patsch
     
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  15. Rock0052

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    This is exactly what I was telling people to be wary of when GBP released their press release- we have no information as to what the nitty-gritty details were as far as what Team Mayweather was requesting.

    If this is serious (and it is an "if" because there's every possibility this could be a spin-job as much as the article from GBP yesterday was), it's a more than fair counter offer.