Top Superfeathers of today VS Top SFW 5 yrs ago.

Blah blah blah....if you're gonna point out other people's wrong predictions, don't go making excuses for yours. Just say you were wrong and shut up about it. Always got excuses.....

Genaro was old? Genaro had just turned 32....younger than Barrera is now, and only a year older than Morales and you hate when people say their old:deal He hadn't been in a ton of wars eithers like Morales and Barrera. Genaro could certainly beat Pacman at the age he fought PBF. Pacman could also pressure him and stop him.

Chavez JUST lost his lightweight title, thats where he is now. Still a championship level fighter. Is there an issue there? You think thats not accomplishing something?

Corrales had a shaky chin and even better power than Pacman. :deal He probably starches Pacman as he is too tall for Pacman to get close to without taking those power punches. Oh and Pacman can be KO'd, remember? He could KO Corrales, but he would have to take some massive bombs to do it. Not like Morales and MAB.

PBF stomps Pacman at 130. He is bigger, stronger, and FASTER than Pacman there. Total mismatch.

 

PBF vs ANY of the guys at 130 you listed is a mismatch.

He is far too big and fast at that weight for any of them. MAB gets outboxed to a wide UD, Morales gets stopped on plain punishment because he would try to go to war, and JMM just gets UD in a one sided fight.

Casamayor can beat any of them, depending on who the judges are :good

 

Mayweather by 9th round TKO. I don't think Barrera has the size to keep a much bigger and stronger Mayweather off him. And this is when Floyd was more aggressive then he is today. MAB is a fine boxer, but here he is simply outclassed.

This might be hard to gaurge. Morales @ 130 was never his best weight. But being at 130 was also burdensome for Chico as this was straining his lanky frame. Still, I would have to go with Chico here. Morales was too much of a warrior to fight intelligently, and tkaing bombs from Chico isn't a good idea.

I think Freitas would win. He's quick in the hands, with very good power. Plus his awkward style might give him something Pac hasn't seen.

Casa by a close UD. This would be a tactful fight, but Casa is a stong fighter for 130, and knows how to fight to his advantage.
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I guess I picked the previous era 130ers, but mainly because none of the current top 130ers are natual 130ers (or higher) as the other guys are.

 

Wow Lance, do you really think it'd take 9 rounds for a 130 Mayweather to dispose of the 130 version of Barrera? Or even better, do you think the 130 Casamayor has any trouble KOing the faded 130 version of Juan Manuel Marquez, who enjoys a nice size disadvantage?

Damn, and Marquez is one of my all time favourites.

At least you got Freitas and Corrales realistically, but lets go into threads and harp on other poster's views mate.:yep

 

1. Mayweather
2. Cassamoya
3. Corrales
4. Pacman
5. Freitas
6. Barrera
7. Morales
8. Guzman
9. Chavez
10. Soto

 

I noticed you didn't make any of your own. Chicken****? Or is it because they don't invovle Joe C or Taylor. Or maybe you just never seen these guys fight much. Nice one mr. playtime expert. :roll:

 

Of course I have seen them all, thus why I was able to respond back to the off examples that you posted. The thing that this proves however is that fights are watched are rose coloured sun glasses and not at face value, because Casa countering the hell out of the 130 faded version of Marquez and scoring a KO due to size and his sneaky power is easy to forsee, as is Casamayor totally controlling every aspect of the bout up until Marquez gets stopped.

Then with Floyd-Barrera, Barrera simply gets eaten alive here and lacks the polished defence to even make it 5 rounds. Marquez does not hit as hard as Floyd did at 130 and Marquez had Barrera hurt multiple occassions, now lets take Floyd's superior offensive arsenal and bodywork into the equation, as well as Barrera being able to amount to nothing offensively to offset Floyd and I think Floyd would get him in 3-5 rounds.

Both Barrera and Marquez are not the larger guys who drained down to 130 and these fights could be classified as mismatches, especially when given the state that Barrera and Marquez are in physically at 130 pounds and pacDbest's original question was which era beats the other, for the point of glorifying the era Pac fights in at 130.

Then I agreed that Freitas KO's Pac and Corrales KO's Morales.

 

:nono Rubbish.

 

Guys Pac has carried the weight pretty well though, and had his best wins at 126. 130 isn't that much of a stretch. I think against Corrales, he could win. He would have a great hand speed advantage, and most of Corrales power is off his hooks. This means he would need to get inside the straight punches of Pac to be effective. His only other weapon was the jab, which most times against southpaws can be in-effective.

Casamayor would have beaten MAB and Morales.

Frietas I honestly don't know, I think he is being over rated. Frietas was a good fighter, but I don't know if he was really as well rounded as MAB or Morales or JMM for that matter. He certainly doesn't have their heart or chin, which may have been a deciding factor.

Overall PBF woudl beat all of them, although i doubt by KO.

To those who said Morales would be done by KO, you can't really be serious.

We are talking close to prime Morales here aren't we, the guy whose chin was practically untouchable.

 

Sorry I misread and thought you were saying the 4 best fighters to be in any one division since the fab 4. My mistake.

 

pac is the different of the younger batch: he started at flyweight,while the others: jmm., mab., em, all from bantam.

 

Thats bull****.B/c Pac weighs in over 140 plus on fight night...thats more weight then floyd has ever put on at 130

 

You didn't lean towards Rojas, you picked him to upset him (want me to post where you say "I picked an upset?") You were WRONG. Stop making excuses.

Like I said, MAB is older (and MUCH older in ring) than Hernandez was and I know you won't say MAB is old now...you only say these things about other fighters.

Corrales couldn't stop Casa and St Claire? Pacman couldn't stop JMM and Larios! Or are we only using that logic for everyone else? Corrales has a higher KO ratio than Pacman as well. Corrales hits harder than Pacman, not only at 130, but probably P4P as well. End of story there.

You didn't know who Chavez was!! That's why you made your statement. You went and looked up that he lost to Morales after I told you he just lost his title. Besides, who said he was better than Pacman? You said PBF was still untested at 130, I just pointed out the good fighters he fought there. Ikehara > Singsurat> Pacman right? That's the logic you just used right?

Hey, you brought up this 130 tourney. If you don't want to worry about it, don't discuss it or bring it up. If Pacman fights PBF at 140-147, he STILL gets beaten down.

 

Corrales is also 5 in taller than Pacman. His hooks would be devastating to the shorter fighter who would be struggling to get on the inside.

We're not talking about Prime Morales. There is no such thing as Prime Morales or MAB at 130. They were at their best below this weight. If Pacman can stop him, Corrales certainly could and PBF could stop him on accumilation of just a one sided beating.