Top Ten 175 Pounders?

Very difficult to presume that Langford is among the best, with the limited footage, although i've sympathy with that point of view. There's very little footage of Charles at LHW too. A tiny bit of Conn.

Are you saying that you think Fitzsimmons is one of the best ever at 175, based upon footage you've seen?

 

Well if someone asks me for names specific to best, which McVey has done, I wouldn't name fighters I hadn't seen/hadn't seen very much of at all. So, yes. Accomplishments and quality are obviously linked, but it's reasonable to say that based upon what footage is available, Ike Ibeabuchi would beat Tommy Burns. Who achieved more?

But as Unforgiven has said, an argument can be made - one can be constructed and it could be reasonable. Even "best" is interpretable.

If the question is who looks best though, the most literal interpretation, then I'd pick Andre Ward to beat Fitzsimmons, for example. Based upon the footage.

 

Well you said "best". Best, tends to mean how good someone is at doing something, literally. What i'm saying is, it's hard for me to understand how someone can say that someone they've never seen boxing at a given weight can be best at something if you've never seen them boxing at that weight, or haven't seen much of them boxing at that weight.

But I think you are using the word "best" like most people use "greatest", maybe.

So, Fitz is unquestionably very great at 175lbs, but Hopkins would pretty clearly beat him based upon the film we have. So Hopkins is a better 175lb fighter, but Fitz is greater, if you like.