Top Ten Greatest Heavyweights Ever

Lennox Lewis was fighting the likes of Mike Weaver and Gary Mason in his 15th and 16th fights. Marciano was fighting Artie Donato and 9-15 Johnny Walls. And yes, that is THE Artie Donato, the one you have read so much about. Lewis was actively fighting good international fighters not New England circuit bums. Sorry, but that has to be said.

Weight divisions were created for a reason. In my experience, the bigger fighters (when of the same level of fitness and not totally yoked bodybuilders) do hit harder than those 50 pounds lighter. Call me crazy.

Then, you are simply biased. Guys like Briggs, Morrison, Tua, Tyson and Grant were enormous hitters. Two of your lists overlap and include many of Lewis' line-up. The rest don't compare in depth.

 

That is incorrect. He packed it up because his manager was stealing most his earnings. He was even making a comeback thinking he was a free agent to fight Ingo but packed it up again realizing he wasn't.

The home run hitters Lewis beat were all unskilled nobodies and the guys who weren't were washed up 10 whole years past their primes. On top of that he was at his best and towered over them all.
Lewis can't carry The Rocks spit bucket.

 

Gary Mason near had him on the canvas. He was fighting these guys with over 8 years amateur experience and two gold medals.

Marcaino had an amateur record of 12 fights.

 

It should be said Weaver was a washed up gate keeper at this stage of his career and Mason was coming off a detatched retina at the hands of Big Foot.

That's a misleading way of breaking it down. Marciano fought over 25+ fights in his first two full years as a pro 07/1948-07/1950. By that time he had already fought Lowry, Vingo, and legit top 10 contender LaStarza. Which holds up nicely to Lewis' better 2 year pro wins over Weaver and Mason.

- That's interesting because my arugment was the punching power of a Walcott, Louis, or Moore posed just as much threat to Marciano as a Morrison, Rahman, McCall did to Lewis if not more so.

Ali and Louis don't compare in depth of "heavy hitters" ? And you are calling me biased?

Really, I just don't think Lewis was at a greater risk of getting knocked out than any other HW Champion. And I dispute the claim that his resume contains a unique amount or brand of dangerous punchers in regards to other HW greats.

 

David Haye swats Marciano like a fly, never mind Lewis.

Old men, and L. Heavies, in his title reign. And frankly garbage that wouldn't be used for sparring by someone like Lennox prior to it. ( with the exception of Joe Louis, who was by then 37. )

 

He also had a bad back and was having headaches. When he made the attempted comeback he realized he didn't have the monastic dedication to training he once possessed... that, or he realized the physical goods weren't there any longer. Whatever it was, it happened in the gym.

Sure, disregard some of the best heavies of the strongest era in the division's history. But are we also supposed to discredit Lewis because he was tall? Where in the **** do come up with this ****?

 

Well you certainly aren't holding back with criticisms of The Rock in order to prop Lewis higher up the legacy ladder.

Rock gave up on the comeback because Weil had him under contract for life and his training was going fine.
When he did the fight with Ali in his 40s, he whipped himself into fighting shape after being out of the ring for over 10 years.
Marciano never had any problem with motivation or dedication. Did you make this up?

 

So the bull**** turns to legacy ladders when the h2h claims get flushed down the toilet.

There is NO version of Marciano, that beats ANY version of Lewis, even the fat under trained one that fought Vitali.

 

How can Lewis rank @ #1 when McCall will always be his master ?

 

Sanders , Brewster and Purrity are better than Wlad. They proved to be better on the night when they beat him. Its a fact.

Also, MaxPower/Glover/Tommo- just get deleted already.

 

Nostalgia can be a terrible thing. :roll:

 

That might have been resolved the night McCall started to cry and ran down the aisle. I think he threw his #1 ranking away. Just sayin.

 

gr8s r allowed 2 have "losses", but d more humili8ing losses they have d lower dei rank.
Lewis' loss 2 McCall is inexcusable , McCall's "loss" 2 Lewis is irrelevant .
McCall's losses 2 Bruno & Douglas were not humili8ing and I doubt if we will ever know d truth about his loss 2 Bruno.
Part of it, I believe is in d fact that McCall used 2b Bruno's sparing partner. Another part may b that it was in London, another is Don King. Another may b crack and another might b rel8ed 2 money. Go figure.

I rank Puritty , Sanders and Brewster all above Wlad , inside of my top 15 but usually outside of my top 10 .
Each 1 of these 3 made Wlad his bich when everything was in Wlad's favor.

Most of Holyfield's & Tyson's losses I can excuse by their being in a bad st8.
I can also excuse Lewis' loss 2 Rahman by his age & distractions, and his re2rn wiz Rahman did prove samsing (but not much since it is still 1:1)
Lewis' loss 2 McCall happened during Lewis' prime when everything was in his favor.
Lewis did not and could not avenge that loss.

All I wrote earlier is that I have Wladimir outside of my top 15. Vitali I can rank as high as #1, but then prime McCall would have stopped him like he did Lewis & Akinwande and like he would have done 2 Bowe and possibly 2 Foreman.

He signed that fight while still in d crackhouse. Still was not knocked off his feet in it. The only time that mattered McCall made Lewis dance d chicken dance. Even when it did not matter Lewis could not do d same 2 him.
If u want Valuev over him (or maybe even Foreman) then I have no problem with it, but McCall is a top 4 must.

 

Lewis didn't NEED to do it to McCall. The world watched the ******ed piece of **** beat himself up.

Going to crack houses is his fault, and only idiots would feel sympathy for the cretin.

 

As long as Lewis is remembered this way as d man whom could never beat n in shape McCall im fine wiz it.
Just spare d "Lewis beat every man he fought" from me.
Crack beat McCall, Lewis could never do it 2 him.