Top Ten HW's - Can Harry Wills Be Considered?

Based on what?

 

I thought the same thing:huh

 

Yes. Wills was washed up and got caught with a huge punch, but he looked fairly good previous to that. There are rumours of other fights of his existing but so far I haven't seen any.

Training footage:

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=21124

Notice that the film says Wills has earned his shot and is to fight Jack Dempsey. Not quite.

 

Maybe he watched them both ringside aye

 

Thanks.That's great.First time I've seen footage of the man.

 

Your Tier 3 is arguably better than Tier 2. I'm just being a ball-buster, that is all.

Liston 2 Tiers ahead of Foreman? You've gone bat-**** McGrain!

 

I really just can't fathom how Foreman could be 2 sections below Liston but that's just me. Unless you account for 50% H2H qualities in your criteria. Otherwise, it's mind-boggling.

 

Well, I don't really see Holmes as a top 3 top guy. He's in the 3-8 range. He didn't clean the place out, and didn't have the greatest reign. He's right up there with Johnson for me. I think I put him 1 spot ahead.

Liston on the other hand is just so loved for his game, and not his achievements.

 

I just looked at boxrec all time HWs and it has Harry Wills as no2. Now we know the flaws in boxrec but I thought it was interesting and if we think about the highest Wills can be ranked, you have to consider him up there

If we want to put a large focus on longevity and number of top wins then only a few were up there with him, he was at the top from 1914 to 1926 fighting nealy every month

 

One thing must be said in suport of Wills case.

He probably fought more elite level opponents than any other heavyweight in history including Joe Louis and Muhamad Ali.

When you look at Wills career in detail, a forgotten colossus apears to emerge.