they were basic level mma artists look at royce he is a mma artist but comapred to a fighter even a couple of years later his skill levels were not upto scratch.
According to Relson Gracie - the reason Royce lost his later fights is because he refused to keep training with his brothers as he had in his early days. Royce insisted on training with his own black belts and purple belts. In many ways - the success of the Gracie family was the downfall of the Gracie family. Instead of working and training together as they once had - they all broke off and created their own academies/schools/brand names.
he never had a full mma game he was good at ju jitsu, compare him to a guy like randy or wanderli and he is always goign to come up short. Look at guys like bas and frank shamrock they had much better allround games than royce and have been around for along time as well.
the thing is i think rickson had betetr strikign than royce but he never tested it out against a decent level striker with good allround mma skills. I just wish he had fought bas or frank shamrock so we could have seen how good he really was.
I wish he had fought those guys as well. And Sakuraba. I hate that there had to be a controversy with Sakuraba's win over Royler - because it effectively killed the match between those two.
Inside mma top ten 10 Ken Shamrock 9 Dan Henderson 8 Bj Penn 7 Chuck Liddell 6 Kazushi Sakuraba 5 Matt Hughes 4 Bas Rutten 3 Royce Gracie 2 Randy Couture 1 Fedor Emelianenko honorable mentions Nogueira,Wanderlei,St Pierre,Anderson Silva,Ortiz,Frank,Severn,Rickson Gracie,Coleman,Faber.
Fedor Penn GSP A Silva Sakuraba W Silva Frank Shamrock Royce Gracie Renzo Gracie Rickson Gracie The Gracie family will tell you that Rickson is better than Renzo or Royce, and I believe them. I feel that Renzo is also better than Royce. I placed Royce where I did because of what he accomplished. Royce Gracie won 3 out of the first 4 UFCs. That is when it was tournament style, and he had to win 3-4 matches in one night.
not sure how you can have gsp on the list when matt hughes is the best welter of all time for me gsp needs to beat penn again and also beat alves before he can hit an all time lsit.