Top Ten Pd 4 Pd fighters this decade (2000-2009)

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  1. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This list is based more on a achievement and who they beat or dominance for a long period of time rather than head 2 head (also I do not count WBO titles)

    so this my top ten best Pd 4 Pd fighters this decade (2000-2009) based on achievements

    1.Manny Pacquaio Record 49W 3L 2D 37KO's (3 WBC 1 IBF 3 Ring Championship Belts, in 6 weight division's over a 11 year period )
    Wins over Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Oscar Larios, Jorge Solis and David Diaz,

    2.Floyd Mayweather Jr Record 40W 0L 0D 25KO's (5 WBC 1 IBF 2 Ring Chamionship Belts, in 5 weight division's over a 10 year period)
    Wins over Oscar De La Hoya, Diego Corrales, Juan Manuel Marquez, Ricky Hatton, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah, Aturo Gatti, Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfedy, Emanuel Augustus, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Philip N'dou, DeMarcus Corley, Sharmba Mitchell and Carlos Baldomir

    3.Bernard Hopkins Record 49W 5L 1D 32Ko's (1 WBC 1 WBA 1 IBF 2 Ring Championship Belts, in 2 weight division's over a 14 year period)
    Wins over Oscar De La Hoya, Felix Trinidad, Kelly Pavlik, Antonio Tarver, Ronald Wright, Glenn Johnson, William Joppy, John David Jackson and Keith Holmes

    4.Marco Antonio Barrera Record 65W 7L 0D 43KO's (2 WBC 1 IBF 1 Ring Championships Belts, 2 weight division's over a 6 year period)
    Wins over Erik Morales, Naseem Hamed, Kennedy McKinney, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley, Paulie Alaya, Rocky Juarez, Mzonka Fana and Robbie Peden

    5.Ronald Wright Record 51W 5L 1D 25KO's (1 WBC 1 WBA 1 IBF 1 Ring Championship Belt, 1 weight division over a 4 year period)
    Wins over Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley, Ike Quartey, Bronco McKart, Keith Mullings

    6.Erik Morales Record 48W 6L 0D 34KO's (4 WBC 1 IBF, in 3 weight division's over a 7 year period)
    Wins over Manny Pacquiao, Marco Antonio Barrera, Daniel Zaragoza, Junior Jones, Wanye McCullough, Kevin Kelley, Paulie Alaya, In-Jin Chi, Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernandez


    7.Shane Mosley Record 46W 5L 0D 39KO's (2 WBC 2 WBA 1 IBF 1 Ring Championship Belt, in 3 weight divisions's over a 12 year period)
    Wins over Oscar De La Hoya, Antonio Margarito, Fernando Vargas, Luis Callazo, Ricardo Mayorga, Jesse James Leija, John John Monlina and Philip Holiday.

    8.Oscar De La Hoya Record 39W 6L 0D 30KO's (4 WBC 1 IBF 1 WBA 1 Ring Championship Belts, in 4 weight division's over a 12 year period)
    Wins over Ike Quartey, Fernando Vargas, Pernell Whitaker, Julio Cesar Chavez, Hector Camacho, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernandez, John John Molina, Jesse James Leija, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Oba Carr, Aturo Gatti, Javier Castilejo, Luis Ramon Campas and Ricardo Mayorga

    9.Juan Manuel Marquez Record 50W 5L 1D 37KO's (1 WBC 2 WBA 1 IBF 1 Ring Championship Belt, in 3 weight division's over a 6 year period)
    Wins over Marco Antonio Barrera, Joel Casamayor, Juan Diaz, Rocky Juarez, Derrick Gainer, Manuel Mendina

    10.Kostya Tszyu Record 31W 2L 0D 25KO's (2 WBC 1 WBA 3 IBF 1 Ring Championship Belt, in 1 weight division over a 11 period)
    Wins over Zab Judah, Julio Cesar Chavez, Sharmba Mitchell Roger Mayweather, Rafael Ruelas, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Oktay Urkal, Ben Tackie and Jesse James Leija


    whats your lists
     
    sugarsean, Oct 23, 2009
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  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    1. Bernard Hopkins
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Floyd Mayweather Jr
    4. Marco Antonio Barrera
    5. Erik Morales
    6. Shane Mosley
    7. Oscar De La Hoya
    8. Juan Manuel Marquez
    9. Wladimir Klitschko
    0. Joe Calzaghe
     
    Addie, Oct 23, 2009
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  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. pac
    2. mosley
    3. mayweather
    4. wright
    5. glen johnson
    6. toney
    7. byrd
    8. dawson
    9. calzaghe
    10 . cotto

    except for pac at #1 , i didn't put much effort writing it in the correct order.

    worth mentioning : arthur abraham

    williams is good by the naive definition of p4p but doesn't look that impressive when his physical prowess jumps to mind.
    remember quintana.

    hopkins is a very dirty fighter - don't forget it.
    he also is ducking the good oposition and picking fights in a roy jones manner (early roy jones).
     
    frankenfrank, Oct 26, 2009
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  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    One of the worst lists I've ever seen. I felt guilty about including Klitschko, but Byrd? Dawson? Ouch. Barrera and Morales are locks.
     
    Addie, Oct 26, 2009
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  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    1. Pacquiao
    2. Mayweather
    3. Hopkins
    4. Marquez
    5. Barrera
    6. Mosley
    7. Morales
    8. Wright
    9. De La Hoya
    10. Calderon
     
    GPater11093, Oct 26, 2009
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  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Marquez above Barrera and Morales? Ouch. Can't agree with that at all. Calderon has been dominating a wasteland, currently been having huge issues with his latest opponent, I think there are more deserving players. Calzaghe was every bit as consistent as Calderon and was beating better fighters.
     
    Addie, Oct 26, 2009
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  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    thought someone would take issue here just threw it in to debate

    arguably JMM has 2 wins over Pac (a better version that the one Morales beat IMO in the 2nd fight) he has won belts in 3 weights being regarded in each as the best at that weight. Arguably beat a long time standing Featherweight champion in John.

    at SFW he established himself with wins over top contenders Juarez especially.

    He then moved up to Lightweight and wins against the number 1 lightweight in Casa who had slipped but was still regarded as the best (except Pac but he hadnt estblished himewlf there enough) then defending against arguably the top contender and KOing him (Diaz)

    Also just thought id throw Calderon in for debate also

    think what he has done is underrated beat good guys in Mayol (close though) Cazarez was 2 good wins. Hes just dominated so good. But so ha joe so fair enough
     
    GPater11093, Oct 26, 2009
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  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    1. Mayweather
    2. Pacquiao
    3. Calzaghe
    4. Hopkins
    5. Morales (would be higher but had his peak from 97-2000 & was finished by 05, still did enough to crack this list tho)
    6. Barrera
    7. Mosely
    8. Marquez
    9. Wright
    10. Delahoya

    Lots of guys could be swapped, kinda rushed it but no1 & 2 are locks, Hopkins is a bit overrated IMO but any list without him isnt worth **** either.
     
    Bill Butcher, Oct 26, 2009
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  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    We've seen the extent of John's ability by struggling with the likes of Rocky Jaurez on two occasions. He has not impressed me, so with Marquez losing a decision to the same man, that only diminishes Marquez as a fighter.

    Admittedly, I had Marquez winning both fights with Pacquiao but they were too close to ever be considered robbery's. He didn't get the decision, and therefore he only gets credited as putting up great performances. These are fights Marquez ultimately lost.

    Juarez loses every time he steps up in class.



    Joel Casamayor had shown sufficient wear and tear prior to fighting Marquez, and the fight proved to be a very competitive affair before the knockout came. I'm not going to discredit the win further, Marquez beat a good Lightweight. No question about it.

    Barrera and Morales, both have wins over prime great fighters. Barrera has Morales x2 and Hamed, whereas Morales has Barrera and Pacquiao. Considering these two are also three weight world champions, and have fought better opposition than Marquez on the whole - I can't see any reason to have Marquez above them.
     
    Addie, Oct 26, 2009
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  10. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Who has the better resume, Mayweather or Hopkins? Hopkins wins fights he supposed to lose, whereas Mayweather only does what people expect of him when he takes on Ricky Hatton, Carlos Baldomir, and Aturo Gatti.
     
    Addie, Oct 26, 2009
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  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well maybe dawson not , and calzaghe also not. but byrd is a lock.
    barerra ? morales ? they were stopped 2 times a piece and at still young ages. being small does not make you a p4p fighter. especially when small and fighting against your size.
    you want dawson and calzaghe out ? take abraham in ? donaire in ? i don't know. hard to find 10. afolabi ? alan green ? shumenov ? garay ?
     
    frankenfrank, Oct 27, 2009
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  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    mayweather must be ranked higher than hopkins.
    hopkins dirtier and choosier.
    mayweather also outpointed delahoya and judah and then some.
     
    frankenfrank, Oct 27, 2009
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  13. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Pacquiao
    2. Hopkins
    3. Mayweather
    4. Maqruez
    5. Mosley
    6. Wright
    7. Calzaghe
    8. Barrera
    9. Morales
    0. De La Hoya
     
    bodhi, Oct 27, 2009
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  14. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I actually agree with this list, thoughI would replace Oscar Delahoya with Winky Wright....

    Manny Pacquaio
    Floyd Mayweather
    Bernard Hopkins
    Roy Jones
    Shane Mosley
    Erik Morales
    Tito Trinidad
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Joe Calzaghe
    Winky Wright (instead of DLH for 2000-2009)
     
    bigtime-skills, Oct 27, 2009
    bigtime-skills, Oct 27, 2009
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    :good
     
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