Top welterweights of your lifetime

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  1. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way to honestly evaluate boxers whose era we did not live thru so I will list those since 1970

    At the top we have Napoles. He was the most accomplished at this weight with the most accomplishments AND with the greatest longevity

    Below we have the indesrutuctable Pipino Cuevas at #2

    At #3 is Ray Leonard while below him is the fledgling Thomas Hearns

    and rounding out the top five is Lloyd Honeyghan

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    #6 Roberto Duran

    7) Simon Brown

    8) Don Curry

    9) Pernell Whitaker

    10) Wilfred Benitez
     
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  2. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you going by talent, Popularity or personal favorite?
     
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  3. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Erm, what top welterweights have there been in the last 15 years? :lol:
     
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  4. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Popularity has nothing to do with it. This is who I think would have been most successful, who had the right stuff which is why Leonard ranks so high. Napoles earns the top spot because he was the best of the lot and with no apparant weaknesses.

    I had problems arranging after Leonard and felt tempted to place Brown and Curry over Duran and Hearns because they were not so successful. Duran losing on his first defense and Hearns with a mere 3 against nobodies. I would have doe this excpet I knew it would bring much ridicule so I lowered their rankings.

    Cuevas was one of the least talented but would have overwhelmed most of the others with his attack. His offense was bone breaking. Pernell on the other hand was one of the more talented boxers but couldnt break an egg and had to rely on decisions. It is not likely though he could have outblxed Thomas Hearns and no way is he going to knock him out.

    Curry was also talented but IMO was overrated somewhat. His loss to Honeyghan really put his talents and accomplishments into proper perspective. The intenisty of that fight and Lloyd's attack was like nothing Donald could ever cope with. Lloyd too could not fullfill his potential either but he did have short term greatness.
     
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  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    1. Oscar De La Hoya
    2. Pernell Whitaker
    3. Felix Trinidad
    4. Sugar Shane Mosley
    5. Ike Quartey
    6. Floyd Mayweather
    7. Buddy Mcgirt
    8. Vernon Forrest
    9. Miguel Cotto- if he beats margarito, he moves up
    10. Ricardo Mayorga
     
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  6. biglads

    biglads Climbing the WBO Rankings Full Member

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    This thread needs more love for Benitez.

    I can't rate him below the likes of Simon Brown or Honeyghan.

    My top 5
    Leonard
    Hearns
    De La Hoya
    Benitez
    Whitaker
     
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  7. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    My Personal Fav...Welterweight's over the Late 70's/80's till now. [Most]
    [That I liked to to watch]

    Pipino Cuevas
    Tommy Hearns
    Carlos Palomino
    Wilfred Benitez
    Roberto Duran
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Donald Curry
    Lloyd Honeyghan
    Marlon Starling
    Mark Breland
    Felix Trinidad
    Oscar De La Hoya
    James McGirt
    Simon Brown
    Vernon Forrest
    Crisanto Espana
    Antonio Margarito
    Kermit Cintron
    Miguel Cotto
     
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  8. Manassa

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    I suppose it's out of Griffith, Napoles and Leonard.
     
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    How are you seeing this one? I got Cotto on a close but clear points win.
     
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  10. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I think Cotto aswell McGrain, i actually like Marg as a fighter, but i dont see him winning, i just think he will be too skilled in the exchanges (i dont know if 'skilled' is the word) and will land better shots that ultimately do the judging.

    Cotto also can box, and though he looks good doing so, i dont think he is a great 'boxer', as he gets caught with shots a bit when in that mode. By my reckoning, he has been much more effective while on the front foot, not too sure that will be the right tactic in this one though!
     
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  11. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Leonard - He unified the Welterweight Championship.
    2. Cuevas- Long Reign as Champion.
    3. Napoles - Great Champion - Tender Skin.
    4. Palomino - Equally long reign as Champion.
    5. Hearns - Devistating as a Welterweight
    6. Benitez - "El Radar" was great defensive master.
    7. Duran - Beat Palomino & Leonard as a Welter.
    8. Whitaker - Great at any weight.
    9. Trinidad - Great power, national hero.
    10. Curry - talented, Good fighter.
    Honorable Mention - De La Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, Starling.
     
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  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :good Great post.
     
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  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Not bad, but my order would be different, and given Judah and Spinks were undisputed, I might include one or both on my list (although, over whom, I am not certain).
     
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  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That appears good to me, but some of these guys predate the time when I seriously began following the sport.

    :good
     
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  15. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks for the compliment, But trust me the Late Seventies/ early Eighties were the golden days of the Welterweight Division!
     
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