Top10 LHWs

My knowledge of the division isnt deep enough for a top ten, but of the fighters I do know, Ezzard Charles comes out on top by a country mile. I'd then have in there as a top 5;

Archie Moore, Langford and then Saad Mohammed or Michael Spinks but dont know which way around I would put them.

 

1. Darius never fought Jones.

2. Jones unified all the belts, while Darius didn't

3. While both men fought the same men for the most part, Jones probably fought a few additional top fighters that Micalczewski didn't, and generally looked more impressive at beating them.

4. Jones won championships both above and below lightheavyweight, making his resume a tad more rounded than Micalczewski's.


5. Jones at the age of 39, is still around winning semi-meaningful matches, wheras Micalczewski's career was basically finished by 2003. Additionally, Micalzewski lost to Julio Cesar Gonzalez who Jones previously defeated. So your ascertion, that both men have wins over the same fighters with no exception, has some merit but is not entirely correct.

 

Darius was LINEAR champ!! jones wasnt even the real champ! so jones never won recognition as the worlds best!

jones never fought the LINEAR CHAMPION DM!

like who at 175?

where talking 175 here

 

Ive just seen this thread now, been away for a few days. Anyway, my top ten is most probably:

1. Charles
2. Tunney
3. Spinks
4. Moore
5. Foster
6. Loughran
7. Langford
8. Jones
9. Galindez
10. Conn

My top 6 are the only ones set in stone, the others are subject to change and just something i put together right now. I know whenever this subject comes up i go into why Moore has no case for number 1, so i'll save you guys the long-winded stuff, but i feel strongly about that. It is just my opinion that Spinks is above Moore, but i think that is justifiable. Good arguments are made for Tunney being overrated here legacy-wise, but i like him for number 2 resume conidered. Loughran is the only guy i would put in for number 6 personally. Jones i put in on h2h more than much else, but i could swap him for Greb maybe? Anyway, my top 6 is what i will keep, Charles is clear cut number 1 imo.

 

When did I ever say that he was 10-15 places lower than Jones? This is what I said:

When I say top 20 or 30 best lightheavyweights, that essentially means that he could be anywhere from 11-30. If you read the first part of that sentence, I never said anything about asigning him a rating, and certainly nothing about being 11-15 places behind Jones. What I said was " I'm not sure." Some alternative expressions for this statement include, I don't know, I'm uncertain or Couldn't say for sure.

If I were trying to rate Darius Micalzcewski lower than Jones by such a significant margin, I would have clearly came out and said with full conviction " I have Jones at #10, and Micalczewski is at #25. "

While I do not claim to be an expert on the career acheivments of Darius Micalczewski, nothing that I've said is falacious or a distortion of any truth. I was watching boxing more avidly in the 90's than I am today, and Jones was revered as the best lightheavyweight in the world as well as being one of the best pound for pound. There were some who criticized him for not facing Micalczewski, but the criticisms soon subsided. It was apparent who was the better of the two, at least in my eyes.....

 

No, he's not.

Light heavies are hard to call. I have them:

Tunney
Langford
Chalres
Spinks
Moore
Foster
Greb
Jones
Loughran
Gibbons

 

The biggest match I ever saw him in, was when he defeated Virgil Hill, and it might have been a replay. He had some other fights that were shown here, but I didn't catch most of them. He was a good fighter.

 

Dwight Braxton & Victor Galindez don't Rate??

 

I don't think they belong in a top 10 list.

 

Sombody should have named Jack Dillon before now.

 

Dillon makes Minotaur's and my list.