Top10 p4p until 1950

That's your opinion. Not by any means a concensus.:good

 

Ross beat more HOFERs than Jack Johnson.

 

Yeah, how many hofers has he beat that are ATG?

Jack Johnson beat:
Stanley Ketchel
Bob Fitzsimmons
Joe Jeanette
Jim Jefrries
Sam Langford
Marvin Hart
Sam Mcvea
Denver Ed Martin
Philly Jack O brien

 

So did Robinson beat more than Ross :good

 

Whom he outweighed by 40 lbs.

Completely shot, as Johnson himself agreed.

Green, but still a great win.

Old and shot.

Smaller than he would become later on, but a great win nonetheless.

He lost to Marvin Hart, though the decision was disputed.

Same reservations as Jeanette. A great win, but not over a prime McVea.

Fair enough.






Johnson is clearly a great fighter and a great heavyweight--one of the greatest of the pre-1950 era. Though some of his wins weren't as good as they looked on paper, they still mark him as the greatest heavyweight of his day. If this thread was solely about heavyweights, he would have an easy time getting into the top 5.

But alas, it's about P4P fighters, and there are many others (like Langford and Wilde) who deserve greater recognition.

 

Are you serious?

 

I meant tommy burns instead of marvin hart. Johnson has a much better names resume than jimmy wilde does, he beat so many great fighters.

 

So Ketchel weighed 140lbs?

So was Johnson.

So was Johnson.

It wasn't a prime Johnson either.

 

Oh, well my list was based on head-to-head, so I got confused. I got it now.:good

 

I was thinking "160", so naturally I typed 60 instead of 40.

One of those atsch moments.

Not to the same degree, since Johnson was closer to his prime. But like I said, it's still a great win.

Ditto

Tritto.

 

Tony Caniz
Jimmy McLarin,
Battling Battlino
Billy Petrolle
Baby Joe Gans
William Hess
Garcia
Frankie Klick

Jack Johnson fought his gallery one maybe 2 times but Ross beat things guys muilty times, Cani 2 times, McLarin 2 times, Petrolle 2 times.

 

your looking at the glass half empty their my friend