top20 p4p according to a panel of 28 boxing writers

So you think Ward deserves to be higher than Froch and the only win he had worth of note was Kessler? or Miranda? when Froch beat Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell back to back?

And PW is way too high at no.3 whereas Froch isnt even in the top 21 and Ward is that was my argument you tool.

And if were on the subject of PW then wasnt he lucky to get a decision over Martinez and lost to Quintanna or did you forget that? PW should be in the top 10 but damn 3 is crazy.

I am not biased what so ever but if Ward is on the top 21 the Froch should be also end of.

 

You are completely deluded. Scandalous?


HBO hails him because he's good. And no, he doesn't have a huge folowing like Pac, Floyd, Shane, Cotto, Margarito, Zab, or most of the other guys in his division. Anyone can see that. He doesn't get fights because people say he doesn't have a following and he isn't worth the risk....

And I don't agree with martinez being so low, but think about it. Martinez is JMW trying to fight MW. Paul is a WW fighting at JMW and MW. And he's not at MW because he grew out of WW. He's there because none of the beltholders would fight him.

 

Actually Ward is arguably a top 10 pfp fighter and Froch is maybe a top 40.

And i only put Froch that high cause he has big wins but he will be exposed very soon:yep And mark my words Ward just might crack the top 5 when the tournament is over.

 

Yeah, mostof these writers forgot that because it happened three years ago. And he came back and KO1 the guy. What better can you do than to immediately rematch a guy and KO1?

As far as the decision over Martinez... Yeah it was close. And many felt he lost that fight, but it wasn't luck. You also have to remember that he is a WW, fighting up there at MW because people like the guy in your avy like to use the PPV# excuse why he shouldn't get a fight.

 

The fact that these guys concluded that Paul Williams is the best boxer in the world outside of Mayweather and Pacquiao completely destroys the credibility of this list.

 

Who should be moved ahead of him?

And why?

 

Where should he be? And why?


You think he's too high because he doesn't have enough hype around him? At least he moves up and fights guys at the weight where they are most comfortable.

 

You gotta understand that Taylor wasn't ranked that high when Froch fought him and Dirrell is virtually an unknown at SMW so the argument could be why get big credit for those fights and Ward beat Kessler who was ranked #1 at the time!!!

As for PW he fought what is still considered good solid competition in Winky, Margarito, Martinez, Phillips and even Quintana(who fought Cotto and Julio) in his recent campaign!!! PW loss to Quintana(still was a close fight) and then avenged his loss the ultimate way(KO1)!!!

Think about this would'a/should'a/could'a.........If Taylor had taken 2 knees in the final round he would have still beaten Froch on points by MD!!!!!

 

Williams has a W over Margo at 147, Martinez at 154 and Winky at 160. Pretty impressive in a P4P sense to me

 

Thank good they didn't put Paul Williams at #1 and Chad Dawson at #2 ... that would be embarrassing.

 

I know other posters will think i'm agreeing because i'm a PW fan but thats a good point!!! All pretty good wins and the fact that many people thought PW would lose to these guys makes it better!!

 

What the **** is Gamboa doing there.

 

Gamboa being #18 is ridiculous. Maybe his accomplishments will warrant that ranking one day, but his best win is a 2nd round KO over Mtagwa.

So is having Ivan Calderon that high, especially when Ward is #21 and has already dominated a better fighter than Ivan has ever faced.

Adamek should be there somewhere.

Vazquez isn't a top 20 p4p talent anymore...hes just about done.