TOPRANK: PAC vs Clottey March 13, 2010

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by enzo, Jan 7, 2010.


  1. BOSTONREDSOX

    BOSTONREDSOX The Ghost Full Member

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    props to clottey for stepping up.****in floyd:rofl what a chicken ****.clottey deserves a good payday
     
  2. fourwind

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    you mean other fights is not a big fight?why now its ridicilous?only coward can think of that!on whats happening now does it look good?dont think so! say it to me when he ask that same test on his next opponent ok!:-(
     
  3. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you misread my post.
    Try again, focus on this part.

    If Floyd is lying about the 14 day counter offer he's the biggest ***** walking and gets zero respect from me from here on in.
     
  4. philthyphil

    philthyphil Member Full Member

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    If you read the Mediator's comment's he's not siding with anyone. He's basically saying Pac's team prematurely spoke and although the statements may not be accurate, they're not false either. He's reiterating that the gag order was violated and that he himself didn't come up with any solutions for either party. He didn't "SLAM" anybody.

    For all we know Arum's lying about his statements and Floyd's lying about his statements.

    If Floyd went INTO mediation with the mindset that he wasn't going to back down from the 14 day window, what the **** was mediation for?
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. NO other fight he has EVER had is this big. What was he going to demand DLH do it? DLH would have said sure and/or take a hike. He is meeting Manny as an equal. It doesn't look good for Manny at all. Even LukeO is doubting.

    Give us the fight we want, Mayweather/Pacquio!
     
  6. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see your point.

    FMJ has played this straight the ENTIRE time. Team Pac has also showed their penchant to take legal action. Why would he lie? He seems to be more agreeable than ever to demands. He has given in on everything.
     
  7. haglerforever

    haglerforever Member Full Member

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    Clottey Pacquiao would be decent fight,Manny probably too fast but you never know.
    Arum is unreal though the *******s in a big hurry to try to deflect the bad press his boy is in for.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He had backed down in so many areas previously? Dude you seem to forget that team pac said...

    01. Tests? Not a problem.
    02. Tests? Problem!
    03. No more than 30 days out.
    04. Vid comes out showing Pac giving blood, NSAC forces them to 24 days.

    Now you sprinkle in there all the BS stories on number 2 that came out of team pac. needles... weakness... interruptions... Still you flip this on Mayweather? Please!
     
  9. fourwind

    fourwind New Member Full Member

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    so why dont he ask dlh to do it?yup thats true no big fights coz he keeps on ducking on all big fights,ok is it clear?:p
     
  10. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    DLH controlled negotiations. Also, DLH was fighting at his own weight doing nothing he hadn't done before.

    The rest? You are an official ass clown. I am done. :bart
     
  11. philthyphil

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    If they were straightforward with negotiations I could see holes in Team Pac's argument. Could you not see negotiations going like

    FMJ: We want Blood testing
    Pac: Sure
    FMJ: We want random-blood testing
    Pac: Wait a minute, we'll give blood, but only to a certain extent
    FMJ: We want USADA to do the random-blood testing.

    I mean, there are probably a sequence of events and statements that go into the fight negotiations. I highly doubt when they amended the contract to add blood testing, they were forthright and said, "On second hand, we'd like olympic-style blood testing to be done and overseen by the USADA and we would also like there to be unlimited testing during the training camps all the way until the day of the fight." You give some and take some. I really doubt they come guns blazing with a demand so definite, there isn't any room to budge.

    All those "needles", "superstitious" ****, how much of that actually came out of Pac's mouth? Superstitious, I'll give him that. Where was the statement or vid of Manny saying he was afraid of needles? Half the **** we read is bull****. These piece of **** promoters coming out with their smear statements are clear and perfect examples of that.
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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  13. philthyphil

    philthyphil Member Full Member

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    I don't think so. Haven't seen **** from Top Rank. ****, their site still has the Pavlik fight on the front page.

    For all we know, that Facebook page is run by a rabid Top Rank Fanboy. I won't hold my breath.
     
  14. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see your logic. The problem is this. They DID say they wanted Olympic style testing and at first Team Pac had no problem with it. Also, the USADA could not exist if the testing protocols drove the athletes crazy and harmed performance. Even now, since team Arum is keeping up the shitstorm, FMJ is letting even more details out. Team Pac are a bunch of liars.

    Pac is either the Boss or a worker. He can't flit between the two when convenient. Arum, Roach, and Ariza are Manny's people. Just like GBP, Roger, and Ellerbe are Mayweather's. What your team says is what you say. Team Pac is all over the place. Point out the conflicting statement from Team Mayweather?
     
  15. philthyphil

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    There's a bunch of conflicting **** from Team Mayweather, just as with Manny's team. First they said they wouldn't budge on the random blood testing. Then they said they were okay with backing off USADA.

    Point is, I don't believe a damn word either promoter is saying. As much as I dislike Floyd, I'll put more merit into what he says on camera along with Pacquiao. **** the press releases and **** the official statements. For all we know, these official statements, are officially bull****!

    It's sad all in all. Half the **** we read and watch could be false and that's all we can go by. There's only a few people who know what's really shaking down. It's evident, the fans want this **** more than these camps do. :bart