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  1. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not when you first agree to random testing all the way to the fight and then change your mind.
     
  2. He did agree to random testing all the way to the fight. He only wanted a cut-off date for having blood drawn. He was willing to give urine every day. He agreed to subject himself to more drug testing than had ever been required for any professional boxing match in history. This is not reasonable?
     
  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. Like most P* you revise history.

    Manny offered 30 days and Mayweather wanted 0. Manny was busted by the Hatton 24/7 blood testing at 24 days so Manny changed it to 24. Mayweather said, lets meet in the middle at 14 days. Arum lied, said 14 wasn't offered, announced the Clottey fight, then admitted 14 days was offered, but wasn't going to fight Mayweather. Pac then went on to blood test for Clottey at 20 days! WTF?

    24 days is reasonable, but it isn't 50/50 of what each party wanted. 14 days is also reasonable. However neither are ideal as they allow the athlete to know what is happening when. USADA testing is fair and reasonable.

    Pac has shown that he isn't honest about the dates anyway. If 30 is the only acceptable drug testing cut off, why are you doing pathogen tests at 24 and 20 days? Maybe it is drug testing not blood testing he fears? :think
     
  4. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    I can't believe this is still having to be explained.....

    This forum sometimes makes me think I would laugh if these people had to have a webcam turned on in order to make these points.
     
  5. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This cutoff date was added late in the negotiation.
     
  6. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    WRONG!

    The dates he gave were meaningless because he gave blood on TWO occasions in windows less than the cut off he provided. 24 days for Hatton. 20 days for Clottey. Sad part is that Clottey was AFTER he made the stink about cut off days being so important.

    If his fear is being stuck with a needle affecting him why is he so inconsistent? His fear is of what is done with the blood.
     
  7. I'm sorry, but how does that make what I said wrong? :huh
     
  8. Your own words.


    Mayweather would not accept what you just deemed as a reasonable offer.
     
  9. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    You're so unbelievably biased and close minded.

    Why do you even watch boxing? Just go order WM 24 and dancing with the stars, lock yourself in the basement and have a mayweather marathon until he fights again.

    You must hate the idea of floyd being a stand up go get 'em fighter.

    Would you vomit if floyd took 45-55 to fight pac?
    Would you call him house and yell at him???
     
  10. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Good move by Arum for 3 reasons.

    1. It dictates Floyd in minor way.
    2. Promotion.
    3. It is set up to make Floyd look really bad if the fight doesnt get signed.
     
  11. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why aren't you addressing my point that the cutoff date was requested after they were close to a deal?
     
  12. I don't really understand why it matters?
     
  13. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Because it's irrelevant to the issue of floyd saying he would destroy pac and the fight was easy.

    The blood testing argument obviously carries no weight if it was all floyd was waiting for.

    He hasn't signed anything yet.

    What's the big deal??? This drug testing **** is a racket and you know it.

    Whats pacquiao on??? What drug is he taking??? The ones only detectable by blood???


    What is this fear of pacquiao based on? no defense hatton getting his neck snapped by little manny pacquiao?
     
  14. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're showing your true colors then.

    Only considering facts when they help your argument and ignoring those that hurt it.

    Always thought you were a unbiased *******, but I guess you're just a *******.
     
  15. Explain to me how that makes the contract more or less reasonable, then. :think