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Comparing Clottey to Mosley is like comparing Baldomir to Cotto. Pacquiao/Clottey surpassed all expectations, in house and PPV, whereas Mayweather/Mosley was big yet a dissapointment.

Pacquiao/Mosley would have greatly outsold Mayweather/Clottey, obviously.

Comparing Pacquiao/Cotto and Mayweather/Mosley is fair as long as you accept Mosley is one of the three stars in boxing today, according to HBO.

 

That is complete crap! (Not for you but for Pac.)

-- Pac gets blood drawn REGULARLY for pathogen testing
-- Pac drew blood at 24 days for Hatton and 20 for Clottey
-- It is on record that Pac sparred for 9 rounds HARD after testing for Clottey

This is what I mean. I want to respect you guys, but you just ignore facts for fun. :huh

 

Whatever contract Pacquiao has signed, Mayweather has the same one in front of him. They have agreed to every fine detail in there. It's not like Pacquiao has signed an old one, Mayweather has a 60/40 one in front of him or anything. Arum, GBP and Ellerbe have discussed everything, come up with a contract that suits both sides and Pacquiao has signed it.

 

The thing is though, Pacquiao has always accepted blood testing if required by the commission. When additional testing was pitched to NSAC, Pacquiao made it clear that what they demand, he will go along with. If they wanted to test an hour before, he'd go along with that.

 

Even so PBF has routinely beaten Pac in PPV buys with common and different opponents. This can't be overlooked and can't be spun. It's fact.
Also PBF-Mosley wasn't a disappointment. If 1.4 million buys and one of the biggest money fights in the history of boxing non HW and not named PBF-Oscar, then you're kidding yourself.:rofl

 

Regarding the 50/50 split and who deserves what.

Question 1: can Floyd Mayweather generate half (50%) as many PPV buys fighting any other opponent as we would draw fighting Manny Pacquiao?

Question 2: can Manny Pacquiao generate half (50%) as many PPV buys fighting any other opponent as we would draw fighting Floyd Mayweather?

Lets assume Pacquiao/Mayweather would generate 3 million PPV buys (I'm guessing)

That means to generate half that amount fighting somebody ELSE, Floyd or Manny (plus other hypothetical fighter) would have to generate 1.5 million PPV. Seems unlikely.

Conclusion. Either fighter (at a minimum!) doubles his PPV numbers by fighting the other fighter.

So 50/50 is obviously fair.

 

That. I don't get it. Yes, Arum is a shifty liar and about as atypical of a boxing promoter as you can get. But Top Rank wasn't negotiating with themselves on this one. Someone from Floyd's camp was negotiating with Top Rank and they had to have gotten what Floyd asked for or else they would have never bothered to send it to Floyd. I'm also sure there would have been a big stink with GBP publicly telling Arum to sit and spin if he tried to stiff them on this fight. If negotiations didn't go as was needed, we would have heard about it by now, I'm sure. It's easier to call off a fight for a second time and say **** it than drag the shenanigans out and be talking to yourself in the media the entire time.

 

I am unsure I could not be more clear - to take what WADA and USADA said about blood and urine testing at face value means basically you either are new to the drug testing controversy or ignorant.

Cost is also a factor. Yes, it may not matter for PBF vs Pac but that is the point for WADA and USADA. They want to be seen so everyone would look to them, like what you are doing now, to be the de facto standard for the boxing business. To them, this is a way to get their foot in to another business. Another client as you might say.

If you believe the idea of cleaning up the sports of boxing, as Mayweather Jr have suggested, then cost do matter. It can't be 'cleaning up the sport' when it only applies to one fight is it?

So again, take what USADA and WADA say with a huge grain of salt. They are not the only experts on the field, there are who disagree with them in many issues and not to mention they have a vested interest to say which test and standards work (theirs of course).

 

How could it be? What would they make a special ruling for the Pac fight only? No. Pac was posturing because he knows how drug testing is paid for, by the commission and/or the promoter(s).

There is no way on this Earth the commission or promoters would shoulder this cost in lesser fights. So to put the commission in that position is a strategic offer that they had no way of acting upon.

The commission WOULD act as an arbitrator and let them come to fight specific agreements (like all other fights). Pac won't agree where it counts.

 

Bull****. PBF can make more money fighting other opponents than Pac can and has proved it. Hell he made damn near 40 mil fighting Mosley Pac doesn't get anywhere near that fighting anyone other than PBF. Do you honestly think Pac can make 40 mil fighting Cotto or Margo? PBF can make atleast 30 mil fighting Williams, Martinez or Cotto. The point is PBF has more options and can make more without Pac than Pac can without PBF. That's one of the reasons why he deserves the bigger share.

 

This fight is gonna happen. Floyd is just actin the bollocks making everyone wait.

 

I will take even further - not only PPV buys but total gro$$ revenue.

Even if each fighter can get a 1.5 million by themselves, this assumes a 100-0 split, $60+ PPV cost (as rumor), gate revenue, promotional revenue and more important to me - legacy contribution.

No on all of them.

 

How much could he make against joshua clottey now that pac has beat him??
Let's do a little role reversal.

Give me your guess...

nov 13th Floyd vs Clottey at 147.

 

Crimson I just addressed every argument.

Cost is NOT a factor in this fight. They want exactly what they should want, to do the job that they set out to do which is to ensure fair competition to the best of their abilities. Like all companies. So if they can do the job that that they advertise what is the problem?

Who said that? I didn't. Mayweather is protecting his a$$ because he doesn't want to get his can kicked by a guy on PED's. Nothing wrong with that.

No. Not a grain of salt. They are a business with a product that they want to sell. If the product delivers then what the hell is the problem? They are not the only experts. I didn't say they where. They are the LEADING experts.

 

Why in the hell would PBF fight a heavy bag like Clottey? The guy ruined any marketability he had with his pathetic performance against Pac. A better choice would be Cotto.