Topuria vs. Holloway

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  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Who is a bigger P4p puncher: Alex or ill?
     
  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Not sure but I think Pereira. Topuria has more speed and he throws compact punches that catch guys off guard.
    I am actually more impressed by Topuria´s speed more than power. Max has speed but he sacrifices power to achieve this, Topuria can do both.
     
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  3. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I agree. I would say Topuria is the second biggest puncher in the game.

    Holloway needs to retire
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Seems like it. Definitely top 5 without a doubt.
    Yes and no.
     
  5. FightWaffle

    FightWaffle New Member Full Member

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    I'd assume Holloway is going up to 155 permanently from here.
     
  6. shanemfr

    shanemfr Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As much as i love Volk i can't see him doing any better in the rematch. He would also be better off going to 155 to fight guys like Dustin, Charles etc who don't have the technical skills and defence Ilia does,
     
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  7. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony You must be 4 king joking! Full Member

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    Alex is the hardest hitting combat sportsman P4P ever, his hook is the most lethal punch in all of combat sports.
     
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  8. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    Really ? You think he punches harder p4p than Julian Jackson, George Foreman, Dan Henderson, Gerald McClellan etc etc. I think you may be suffering from recency bias.
     
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  9. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    No way. If we are talking pure punching obviously theres going to be boxers by the dozens who hit harder both in total terms and p4p even right now. Obviously he has good hard kicks too but even then i'm not sure i'd say hes the hardest kicker ever either.

    Also something to bear in mind with the "p4p" thing, the guy was HUGE for MW and is still very big for LHW, look at the size of him compared to Khalil for example.
     
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  10. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    Hard to say. Poatan is a big dude for the weight classes hes been fighting at though whereas Ilia isnt. Poatan also hasnt cracked a chin as good as Maxs, not in MMA anyway.

    One things for sure, Ilia is a much better overall fighter. His base isnt even in striking and hes ****ing elite MMA strikers up standing.
     
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  11. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony You must be 4 king joking! Full Member

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    He is a better one punch finisher than Foreman was and has the most devasting hook in the history of combat sports.
     
  12. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony You must be 4 king joking! Full Member

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    He has one punch power, which fighter has proved he has more one punch power than Alex?
     
  13. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony You must be 4 king joking! Full Member

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    Can`t think of many boxers that have many one punch KO`s in today`s boxing world, Inoue? Prime Wilder? Zhang? Bakole? Not a big list at all.
     
  14. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    Bit different hitting boxers with boxing gloves vs hitting MMA guys with 4oz gloves and no counts. A big part of Poatans game is him using kicks as well, if he was just purely using punches he would be less effective.
     
  15. Mark Anthony

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    Less effective but no less powerful.