Tortoise Hare II

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  1. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As we know, the tortoise defeated the hare in a stunning upset.

    My question is, what if the tortoise had granted the hare a rematch?

    Would the hare have learned from his mistakes to reverse the result, or would he have been too mentally crushed after the previous defeat?

    Can Anthony Joshua learn anything from this for his upcoming fight?
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    I think the question you're asking is who we think wins on Saturday. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    I got Ruiz in 9. Joshua will try and make some adjustments, and fight more cautiously and defensively with his jab and size, but ultimately isn't good enough to stick it out till the end.
    Ruiz will also have had a full camp and be even more confident than normal.
     
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  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua in 8, yes he learned the lesson...guess we will see!
     
  4. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Joshua has sort of learned his lesson. I think he wins, possibly by decision, while having a few uncomfortable moments on the way.
     
  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Podcast EVERY SOMETIMES youtube.com/lordlegender Full Member

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    I'm favoring Joshua so long as his mind is in the right place, but who knows what Ruiz can do with a full camp this time around. Joshua better be motivated
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Money's on Joshua this time, but in boxing as in life.. Who knows?
     
  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot El gran campeón Mexicano Full Member

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    What's the lesson Aj had to learn did he even get that far
     
  8. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails Full Member

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    This fight is a bit of a pick em situation, since we don't have full evaluation of the context.

    I'm going with Ruiz to stop Joshua again, as @George Crowcroft said. He provides stylistic problems that I don't think Joshua will be able to solve, especially with only 6 months thereabouts, such as his adept usage of parrying, his controlled manner of being the shorter man (which always bothered AJ) and his hand speed alongside his chin. AJ simply doesn't have the 'finesse' and boxing instinct to avoid him for 12. I actually think he should go all out for an early KO on Ruiz instead.
     
  9. themaster999

    themaster999 Active Member Full Member

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    Think Eddies interested in the Hare v Tortoise rematch

    £30.95 PPV
     
  10. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Honestly I just feel it comes down to the fact that Ruiz has a good chin and AJ doesn’t
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 The Mercurial Mephistophelean Malcontent Staff Member

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    Here's the catch, there's no tortoise or hare in this scenario. It's a natural advanced innate skillset vs. decent learned skillset. 9 times out of ten, the skills will end up paying the bills, especially when the guy with the advanced skillset also has an iron chin.
     
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