Tortoise Hare II

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  1. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As we know, the tortoise defeated the hare in a stunning upset.

    My question is, what if the tortoise had granted the hare a rematch?

    Would the hare have learned from his mistakes to reverse the result, or would he have been too mentally crushed after the previous defeat?

    Can Anthony Joshua learn anything from this for his upcoming fight?
     
    janitor, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:28 PM
    janitor, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:28 PM
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cincinnati Cobra Full Member

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    I think the question you're asking is who we think wins on Saturday. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    I got Ruiz in 9. Joshua will try and make some adjustments, and fight more cautiously and defensively with his jab and size, but ultimately isn't good enough to stick it out till the end.
    Ruiz will also have had a full camp and be even more confident than normal.
     
    George Crowcroft, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:39 PM
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  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua in 8, yes he learned the lesson...guess we will see!
     
    PhillyPhan69, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:41 PM
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  4. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Joshua has sort of learned his lesson. I think he wins, possibly by decision, while having a few uncomfortable moments on the way.
     
    TBooze, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM
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  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Idealism must not be staunched by safety Full Member

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    I'm favoring Joshua so long as his mind is in the right place, but who knows what Ruiz can do with a full camp this time around. Joshua better be motivated
     
    The Undefeated Lachbuster, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:17 PM
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Money's on Joshua this time, but in boxing as in life.. Who knows?
     
    Fergy, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:22 AM
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  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot El gran campeón Mexicano Full Member

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    What's the lesson Aj had to learn did he even get that far
     
    Ph33rknot, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:04 AM
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  8. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Bebop Boxer Full Member

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    This fight is a bit of a pick em situation, since we don't have full evaluation of the context.

    I'm going with Ruiz to stop Joshua again, as @George Crowcroft said. He provides stylistic problems that I don't think Joshua will be able to solve, especially with only 6 months thereabouts, such as his adept usage of parrying, his controlled manner of being the shorter man (which always bothered AJ) and his hand speed alongside his chin. AJ simply doesn't have the 'finesse' and boxing instinct to avoid him for 12. I actually think he should go all out for an early KO on Ruiz instead.
     
    roughdiamond, Dec 3, 2019 at 4:45 AM
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  9. themaster999

    themaster999 Active Member Full Member

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    Think Eddies interested in the Hare v Tortoise rematch

    £30.95 PPV
     
    themaster999, Dec 3, 2019 at 4:46 AM
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  10. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Honestly I just feel it comes down to the fact that Ruiz has a good chin and AJ doesn’t
     
    Ted Stickles, Dec 3, 2019 at 6:30 AM
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  11. CST80

    CST80 The Mercurial Mephistophelean Malcontent Staff Member

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    Here's the catch, there's no tortoise or hare in this scenario. It's a natural advanced innate skillset vs. decent learned skillset. 9 times out of ten, the skills will end up paying the bills, especially when the guy with the advanced skillset also has an iron chin.
     
    CST80, Dec 3, 2019 at 9:36 AM
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