Tough life of Bernard...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Salah479, Apr 10, 2008.


  1. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What?? :lol:

    I have family all over western Europe, and the average living conditions are quite a lot better than that. :patsch

    Though you make a good point. When Brewster (think it was him) fought Liakhovich this was an issue.

    Lamon went on and on about the hood and his tough life, Sergei didn't say anything, except when finally pressed by reporters, he replied: "I think I had it tougher in Eastern Europe, but it's not something I brag about." :good
     
  2. Thread Stealer

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    Where did you live? The Crest?
     
  3. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    true and as a pro, you'd know. but if you gotta glass chin and come from nothing than it's very unlikely you'll ever get to a stage where anyone would notice. also, assuming average chin ability, mental toughness is what i was talking about.
     
  4. sambob

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    Bernard is 6'1" and very imposing in person. But you don't have to be tall to intimidate someone. Just the right look at the right person is almost enough to get them to hand over their wallet.
     
  5. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you know ANYTHING about the joys of the American penal system? Or the quality of life in American inner cities? We incarcerate more per capita than any nation in the world, and have whittled our rehabilitation programs down to nothing. To be where he is today is incredible, and he's earned the right to embellish his story and his persona to the degree he has. Which frankly, isn't much.

    Of course there is more abject poverty in the developing world, but you've got no ground to stand on implying that Hopkins has lived some kind of charmed existence.
     
  6. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tijuana is a rough city indeed but Eric had a decent up bringing. he was from a middle class family as far as I know he didn't really experience pverty. Not that I think that makes a difference or anything just pointing that out.
     
  7. Tettsuo

    Tettsuo Active Member Full Member

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    If you see murder and violence everyday, it doesn't matter where you are, it's still murder and violence everyday.
     
  8. Thread Stealer

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    No, I heard Morales grew up in pretty bad poverty, in a poor, crime-ridden area of TJ.

    La Zona Norte Tijuana is known for crime, drugs, and prostitution.
     
  9. Thread Stealer

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    That's real logic, but not ESB logic.

    According to ESB logic, East Oakland can't be bad. After all, the ghettos of Johannsberg, Rio De Janiero, and Cape Town are probablyworse.

    And the favelas of Rio can't be that bad. It's not worse than the Civil Wars and genocides of the Sudan and other places in Africa!
     
  10. brown_bomber

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    :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: noooooooooooooo u serious damn thats so gangster
     
  11. BlueApollo

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    Don't forget, four walls and access to a laundromat erases all experienced adversity.
     
  12. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    I dont think a post has made me as angry as reading the original poster saying that. Condesending bull****.
     
  13. BlueApollo

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    I hear you. But I'd like to think we can do our bit for the world on here by staying calm and reminding people that not everything in America is filled with sweetness and light. There was a show on last night looking at the effects of low income induced stress, asthma, and diabetes in the American inner city. It's hard to listen those stories, and still see the point of debating "who has it worse" globally. Although I know of experiences I personally do consider "worse" (Kassim Ouma), what is the point, really?

    Suffering is universal.
     
  14. platnumpapi

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    it aint just americans its any fighter that has had it tough, no matter where the from or color.hopkins did not grow up in mr rogers hood and he did a dime in the state penn.just to come out and refuse to be another black statistic.alot of people who did the same **** hopkins did are in the penn for life or dead, hopkins is looked up to by alot of young black men that are or were headed down the wrong road.he proved that no matter the living condition or were you from or who you are you can make it.

    and he is proven as black man an endangered species that anyone can make it, without having a pot to **** in and window to throw it out of.if he can do it anyone can.

    thats all i got to say, as far as a hard life.manny had ****ed up life stealing and saleing ciggs to make a buck.but ouma has them all beat by far.

    ouma has been thorugh some **** i would not want to ever go through.

    but nothing wrong for hopkins to tell his story,because there are alot of young americans mostly black but others as well that need to hear a story like hopkins.

    **** it might keep them from robbing you one day, look at it like that :good
     
  15. Salah479

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    I am not trying to debate who comes from a worse 'hood' or who has it harder than another person or place...(b/c that would be falling into what i was originally complaining about..) and i also do not want to make it all about Bhops and slander him (especially if he is a Muslim).....but jus generally speaking there is no need to self righteousoly go on about how 'hard' you have had it in order to justify the unjustifiable or somehow vainly glorfigy yourself.........No MATTER WHERE YOU COME FROM......and i just think it is strange that generally only americans are the ones who do this...when in reality their conditions are much superior to that of the rest of the world generally speaking (not saying that people do not suffer..in america...of course people suffer everywhere but in other parts of the world they dont go on and on about it in a self righteous self serving manner) Like I said it is kind of off the point but I mean if you do not believe me that the third world is much harsher than America just think about all of the immigrants from the south of the border who literally die and get raped in order to live in the worst parts of America at much lower wages..contemplate that for a moment.....and contemplate that 1/4 of the world lives under one US Dollar a day...meaning if you make a lot of money like in the milions, jus b/c you came from poverty this does not make you special, and an arrogant attitude about the 'hard hood' where you came from, although you have millions, is quite spiteful