Toughest oppositions faced , win or lose

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if u'll bother posing a poll suggesting only terrell and williams as his best performance , u'll c it will turn out pretty even .


    Win/lose is unimportant by my criteria in this thread , correct so far , but size/age & state gapes do count here&now . And Ali enjoed them more often than not , even against d opponents i posted as seemingly legit .
     
  2. patscorpio

    patscorpio Active Member Full Member

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    well most marion's fights weren't high profile fights and he wasn't that great a fighter...just a tough guy who came into shape and gave fighters some work with a somewhat negative fighting style...he was a spoiler type in a way...dude was robbed against mercer, beat mike the bounty hunter, nearly knocked down and nearly ko'ed an undefeated jeremy williams, and ruined paea wolfgramm's undefeated record and promotional contract in america..classic journeyman
     
  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    175 lbs :

    Ezzard Charles : Arnold Cream*4 , Rocco Markegiano*2 , Joe Louis , Archie Wright*2 , Harold Johnson , Jimmy Bivins*5 , Joey Maxim*5 , Bob Satterfield , Gus Lesnevich , Oakland Billy Smith*2 , Lloyd Marshall*3 , Charley Burley*2 , Jose Basora , Kid Tunero , Ken Overlin*2 , Teddy Yarosz .


    Archie Wright : Ezzard Charles*2 , Floyd Patterson , Rocco Markegiano , Cassius Clay , Harold Johnson*4 , Joey Maxim*3 , Lloyd Marshall , Ken Overlin , Teddy Yarosz , Charley Burley , Eddie Booker*2 , Jimmy Bivins* ,



    Joey Maxim : Ezzard Charles* , Archie Wright*3 , Arnold Cream*4 , Jimmy Bivins* , Eddie Machen*2 , Floyd Patterson , Walker Smith Jr. , Bob Satterfield , Danny Nardico , Ted Lowry , Carl Olson*3 , Curtis Sheppard*3 , Gus Lesnevich , Lloyd Marshall



    Jimmy Bivins : Ezzard Charles*5 , Arnold Cream , Charley Burley , Joe Louis , Bob Baker , Lee Q Murray*5 , Leonard Morrow*2 , Lloyd Marshall , Archie Wright*5 , Joey Maxim*2 , Tami Mauriello*2 , Curtis Sheppard*4 , Teddy Yarosz , Sid Peaks*2 , Ted Lowry , Gus Lesnevich , Billy Soose .

    Ted Lowry : Rocco Markegiano*2 , Tiger Jack Fox , Lee Q Murray*3 ,
    Archie Wright , Jimmy Bivins , Ronald LaStarzza ,

    cruiserweight addition :

    Curtis Sheppard : Arnold Cream*2 , Lee Q Murray*6 , Joey Maxim*3 , Jimmy Bivins*3 , Lloyd Marshall , Archie Wright*2

    Lee Q Murray : Curtis Sheppard*6 , Sid Peaks*2 , Jimmy Bivins*5 , Ted Lowry*3


    i believe i missed a few from a few's resumes and missed a few mentions , but it's clear that Ezzard Charles' and Archie Wright records were not singular 4 their era . Wright tried with all his might 2 weigh d least that he could (d original weight cutter) , and Charles was simply bigger and younger than most of his opponents during his prime . It explains y they were a tad more successful than their rivals .

    BTW , I intentionally omitted Freddie Mills from Joey Maxim's resume , thistle1 won't like it , but it's quite apparent that Mills wasn't very good , he barely fought any1 , his record seems void even compared 2 some of d post 1990s lightheavyweights , and in some i mean more than 2 (in this case i mean more than 5) .
    Mills' resume is extremely poor 4 his era and i think it's quite obvious that he ducked almost every threat available until d murderously punching Joey Maxim :bbb managed 2 get in d ring with him and exposed d truth about him