Track and Field or boxing?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Sizzle, Nov 18, 2007.


  1. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Anyone that calls a boxer who lands the greater number of punches and dictates the pace of the fight a "runner" should make an effort to learn something about the sport before spouting ignorant crap. Join a gym, spar a few rounds, or have an openminded discussion with someone who has an idea what they're talking about.

    "Running" is what Oscar De La Hoya did against Felix Trinidad in the last two rounds of their fight - He conceded the rounds. He thought he was ahead on the scorecards so decided he didn't want to take the risk of being knocked out by Tito, and threw the rounds. This is running.

    Fighting on the backfoot is NOT running. Cotto didn't "run" Vs Mosley, he boxed, and as Mosley suggested he did a damn good job of it. Mayweather didn't "run" against De La Hoya or in any of his fights for that matter. What you're actually witnessing is technical mastery. Painting his opponent with many more punches, all the while doing everything possible to avoid danger. THIS IS BOXING.

    If you can't appreciate the technical essence of the sport, fair enough. Certain styles aren't entertaining to certain fans. But to cheapen such a complex art by labelling it "running" demonstrates an abundance of ignorance and/or a lack of functional brain matter.

    Why not follow track and field? You could call them "runners" and actually be right.
     
  2. Zhaakal

    Zhaakal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Too bad that if you want to be a boxer who appeals to the crowd you have to risk being a ****** at 40 years old from all the punches you have to absorb to please the crowd.

    When a fighter who decides he wants to be able to speak normally and walk straight at 40 year old he is called a runner:patsch
     
  3. IceJohnScully

    IceJohnScully Active Member Full Member

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    Man, I agree 100 percent.... I have watched Floyd and NEVER did it occur to me that he was ever "running" in his fights. Floyd is as uperb BOXER and anybody that doesnt appreciate cannot sit there and truly say they are a fan of boxing. They are fans of action, of fights, of brawls etc....but when u have someone with those types of SKILLS and you dismiss him as nothing but a runner, that is a total indication of a lack of knowledge IMO.
     
  4. heidegger

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    No Floyd is a dirty runner! I like to see fighters stand in front of each other and bash each other in the face alternately! My favourite boxing fight ever is Rocky IV where he smashes Ivan Drago. Now that was boxing! Enough of this moving your feet stuff that Mayweather does!
     
  5. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That was Rocky IV :D
     
  6. LeadLeftHook

    LeadLeftHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post! What Guzman did was not running. He used great movement, beautiful countering, timing and elusiveness. He commanded the fight with his skills. He didnt just blatanly run like some of you make it out to be, he stood right there when he had to, he attacked and moved .
    It was beautiful to watch him make Soto look like an amatuer punching in thin air.
     
  7. cpnasty

    cpnasty Fight Fan 83 Full Member

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    Good post
     
  8. cpnasty

    cpnasty Fight Fan 83 Full Member

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    He also said Oscar was a runner during their rematch
     
  9. twenty1

    twenty1 Final Destruction Full Member

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    THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Oscar avoided Trinidad for the last two rounds of their bout, he didn't make an effort to win them.

    Or are you telling me you scored the rounds for De La Hoya?
     
  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its all very good not getting hit but how about the hitting part? When youve only landed 5 punches on your opponent, you really didnt do enough damage. The point of boxing is to hurt one another with each others fist, you obviously hurt your opponent more if you get hit less but that doesnt mean land 5 punches and get hit 0.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I couldn't agree more!:clap: Way to educate these fools.:good
     
  13. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Ditto
     
  14. koko of phil

    koko of phil Ring of Fire Resident Full Member

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    For me that's the irony side of the boxing rules, a fighter should score a knockdown, knockout or by submission, but when he go to the distance a fighter could win a decision through the number of punches threwn or worst by just putting a good show to the judges he was in control of the fight. But we should all admit that most of us like this sport because we love excitement, watching two combatants scoring kds or kos with their fists and not by just running away a win through score of punches. Hit and run could be a style of a skilled boxer but could also be a way of coward fighter scared to be hit. Running is boring, those who like this is only in his justifying stance or just a fan of a certain fighter who has this style.
     
  15. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with you and dangerousity. These so called purists act like lesser fans are only after KO's and blood. Fact is boxing is about fighting. Thats how it started, Its what draws the fans and keeps it going. Fighting produces excitement, drama, history, fans and action.

    Defense is important no doubt, but when a fight becomes more of a chase, the opponent loses, the fans lose and boxing loses. Guys like Cotto are getting popular because he uses his skills to beat his opponents more and win "fights" not just decisions.

    Way I see it, fighters all take risks, and the ones who slug and fight take more of a risk than pure boxers....so they should reap the greater rewards. They are the ones shortening their lifespan and health for your entertainment. They are the heart of the sport whereas defensive boxers are the brain. To me their style works, but is not what boxing is about.

    I saw that guy Andre dirrel (I think thats him, the one that prances around throwing like....5 punches a round), to me that is a disgrace. He has athleticism and defense, he'll probablly beat a lot of gutsy fighters easy, but to me thats not called technical brilliance, its called owning a vagina.