Tracy Callis has slightly changed his All Time rankings

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  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks for clearing that up. It must have been misreported to me at some point. Pretty sad for any parent to outlive a son or daughter.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His rankings don't even make much sense, in terms of what he believes, if you get what I am saying.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes its against the natural order of things.
     
  4. Noel857

    Noel857 New Member Full Member

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    Was Callis drunk when he made this list?
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think he probably makes more logical sense when he is half stewed!lol
     
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  6. BeerGut

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    Just looked at his rankings from 2006 and he has them tied at #10 back then.
     
  7. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm gonna presume, Mr. Callis is an honest man, and that these lists actually represent what he truly feels.

    I think, it may be a case of studying the old-timers TOO intensively. I mean, if you spend decades going through thousands of contemporary newspaper articles, you could brainwash yourself into believing, that boxers from the late 19th/early 20th century were superior to those of more recent times. That's the only explanation I can think of.
     
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  8. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks - apparently my memory isn't what it used to be!
     
  9. Woller

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  10. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everybody has an unconscious bias towards the eras that they know the most about, if only because they know the merits of the lesser known fighters, who are faceless men to most people.

    Callis is well respected among historians, but I have always found his logic a little odd.

    My attempt to argue the case for Jim Jeffries, would look very different from his argument for example.
     
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  11. louis54

    louis54 Active Member Full Member

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    He probably respects guys who were great at bareknuckle and gloved rules, fight to the finish and 15 round s, etc
     
  12. ChrisJS

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    I don’t agree with his lists but I do respect the hell out of the research he puts in. I do think it’s clear where his sympathies lie with regards to certain eras and generations.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    Well he aint respected at all by me!
     
  14. Flash24

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    Tracy Callis has been smoking the peace pipe. But with PCP as an addition. Jeffrey's the greatest heavyweight? J.Johnson the greatest Cruiserweight in a division created almost 70yrs after he died? No Marvin Hagler or Carlos Monzon in the top 10 at Middleweight? He obviously had too see Mounzon and Hagler since he had Whitaker in the top ten at lightweight. But it is his opinion and he's welcome to that. But in my opinion he has no clue.
     
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  15. The Malibu Mauler

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    This is the 3rd worst p4p list I've ever read
     
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