training the legs for boxing specific speed and power

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  1. cockneyhardman

    cockneyhardman Member Full Member

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    wondering if anyone here knows the right type of training and the right resistance to train the speed of the leg extension when either stepping forward or punching or doing both at once?

    this is kind of a complicated subject

    now i've discovered that where the arms are concerned, making them stronger doesn't seem to make any difference to there quickness, because there is virtually no outside resistance they they are working against except gloves, and they are supposed to be relaxed and loose anyway in order to move quickly

    also i've read articles about tests conducted on baseball pitchers and handball players, that proved they increased their throwing velocity by doing sport specific underload training - in other words using a lighter than standard ball, which transfers over to when they use the standard weighted ball, and no evidence was found that using a heavier than standard ball increased their velocity

    i can see why because the resistance is very minimal, and i think the same would apply to using slightly lighter gloves in boxing

    anyway regarding the legs the whole concept changes because the legs are having to move bodyweight, and to do that quickly requires leg strength, and sport specific leg power

    i've discovered that doing squats has definitely increased the speed of my leg extension slightly, even more dramatically though when i do squat jumps - i can jump higher now

    but i want to get more specific with faster power excercises, but not just the type of excercise but also what is the most appropiate RM'S for those excercises?

    i.e - squat jumps - what weight resistance would be the most optimal for boxing specific leg power?
     
  2. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Why not hitting the bag with a baseball bat? Seen Alex Ariza do that before.
     
  3. cockneyhardman

    cockneyhardman Member Full Member

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    thats more for the torso though isn't it?

    bit like a cable twist
     
  4. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Still, the legs facilitate the movement, try shadowboxing on your knees and see how much movement you get from your torso- about 2-3 inches either way.
     
  5. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good one that Jeff innit :D
     
  6. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The secret is firing all the nuerons in the leg at the same time,unfotunatly its staying a secret :verysad.
     
  7. cockneyhardman

    cockneyhardman Member Full Member

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    yep - it's called "starting strength" i believe
     
  8. cockneyhardman

    cockneyhardman Member Full Member

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    i read an article by verkhoshansky the russian sports scientist, that says lifting a weight as fast as possible at the very beginning of the movement, not at the end of it, develops starting strength (quickness)

    but knowing the ideal RM is another thing
     
  9. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats been out there years, the thing with anything, is the progression in exercise strength in Sport. It doesnt take 2 mins for nuerons to be played with, and for them to adapt, to stimulas, it takes a long time. Feel is the bodys early warning system, tread carefully :good.
     
  10. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Or you can generate the opposite effect, then theres a problem with Feels partner, Touch. :yep
     
  11. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    squat thrusts and leg presses
     
  12. Chip

    Chip Member Full Member

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    I dont know much about squats and RM's and what not, but sprinting, especially hill sprinting or stair sprinting, and type of sprinting that develops the fast twitch muscles in the legs would be a good excercise to increase explosiveness and speed.
     
  13. vonLPC

    vonLPC Active Member Full Member

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    Yes it is starting strength. To answer your question, 20-40% of 1 rep (squat)max for squat jumps.
     
  14. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Work this one out, its a leg exercise. Where working steady state 140 bpm you produce 35% more lactic than a Treadmill or Running. If you work VO2 max 190 bpm, It produces 22% less Lactic, its got people scratching there Heads :yep
     
  15. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh with the same energy output round the board.