Trinidad or Oscar - Who's Greater?

Sorry Jack, i dont get your drift though! Are you agreeing with me or is it sarcasm?

(sorry man!)

 

I was attempting to be comprehensive and look at their entire careers, since we are deciding who is greater. OK, the Jones loss counts for nothing, but I'm not going to decline to mention it in a comprehensive look at Tito's career - to be honest, if the fight had been at 5-10lbs lower it's not inconceivable Tito could have beaten this version of Jones.

You are over-critical and inaccurate as well. IMO, De La Hoya definitely won the Quartey fight, and I did remark that Trinidad's win over Joppy was better than De La Hoya's over Sturm despite Sturm being the superior middleweight - isn't it obvious therefore that that is because Trinidad's performance was vastly superior?

PS: If Tito's loss to Jones means nothing, then there is a case to say Oscar's loss to Hopkins means nothing. Tito began his world title career at 147 and fought Jones at 170. Oscar began his world title career at 130 and fought Hopkins at 160 - a greater difference. Maybe you should be less critical and nitpicky next time.

 

De La Hoya did better against hopkins IMO, but I also think its too early to see who had the greater career.

 

De La Hoya posed more problems for Hopkins, stylistically. On a round by round basis he was comptitive, Trinidad wasn't. A case could easily be made for it being even going into the round it ended. De La Hoya wasn't getting beaten up badly outwith the bodyshot that dropped him.

 

Exactly. Trinidad was broken down and absorbed a hell of beating over the course of the fight. De La Hoya wasn't pounded upon because he brought a multi-dimensional game that Hopkins knew wasn't as predictable as Trinidad's. A fighter like De La Hoya wasn't going to load up and rely on getting set for his power, unlike Trinidad. Yes, De La Hoya was surprisingly aggressive against Hopkins as well, but used the jab to good effective while doing so.

 

DLH looked pretty good against Hopkins. He was clearly outmatched and outgunned, but he was game and put up a good fight.

 

Let me put it this way. I was in Vegas when Tito fought the Panties in Sept. of 99, and when he fought Vargas, December of 2000. I partied with my Borricua Brothers and sisters both times, and carried the Colors of PR, baby!:smoke :smoke :smoke

 

I would give the edge to DLH. Better overall body of work, and I feel he narrowly won their fight.

However, Oscar did NOT deserve the decision over Quartey.

He did **** all for most of the fight, which was easy to score.

 

That sums it up.

 

Trinidad's work above welter is slightly better, at welter they are equal (I believe Oscar did deserve the decision over Quartey), and the rest of Oscar's career means it is indeed a no-brainer. Just like I said a page ago.

 

i would say oscar edges it slitghtly because of his work at lighter weights and the fact that he has become one of the most popular fighters of the decade

 

Oscar will be remembered ATG, because of being the only man having 6 belts(although the WBO belt he got at 130lbs was when the wbo was nothing).

Tito will be remembered as an ATG welterweight(but so should Oscar at 135lbs)

So i would say Oscar.

 

True.

My vote goes to DLH + I thought he won the H2H tho there wasnt a great deal in it but he still won IMO.

6 weight champ compared to Tito`s 3 & faced more good fighters aswell.

 

GREAT post:good