Trinidad vs Cotto "fantasy fight" who wins at 147

where to start? I own all the fights you speak of. And Cotto is not a master boxer, and that is what I was laughing at. Regarding Cotto outboxing Mosley, I think you need to take that for what it is...Cotto having the better relfexes at age 26 then a 36 year old Mosley. In round 7 when Mosley got on his toes and gave Cotto movement, Cotto had no answer. Cotto outboxed an agressive mosley for the final 3 rounds. FTR I had Cotto winning that fight 115 - 113. That does not make him a master boxer.

The other comment I laughed about was Cotto being a better boxer then Tito EVER was. now call me a 2 minute fan or whatever but only a person who has never seen "Showtime Tito" (that's before he went to HBO, by that time he had about 15 welterweight title defenses in the bag) could make such a bold statement. Get yourself a copy of Trinidad - Oba Carr and watch the adjustments ad Boxing display Tito puts on and come back and tell me that story again. By the time Tito went on to fight at HBO he had already fell in love with his power and started to limit his own dimensions.

 

Cotto does not have enough pure boxing acumen to outbox a prime welterweight Tito Trinidad.

It's funny that you say that seeming how you only know one version of trinidad.

 

Some of you have forgotten how good Tito was

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7mLIm50Wps[/yt]

 

tito has everything it takes, a good high guard defense, a great jab, a good straight right and a great left hook, also cotto is very very accurate.

 

try this

 

thank you!

 

So you couldn't provide a scenario where Tito outboxes Mosley? And Oba Carr.... ROFL. What a bad comparison. Cotto is a league above Carr, and Tito was hardly counterpunching and showing diversity in the way he beat him. Yes Tito has good boxing ability, a good jab, nice right hand, beautiful left hook. But he does not have the different dimensions that Cotto has, and especially doesn't have the movement or the balance that Cotto has. Oscar outboxed Trinidad beautifully, and Cotto could very well do the same using movement and combination punching to overwhelm him. Trinidad can be lured into his opponents counter punching, which was his biggest mistake. Cotto is clearly more diverse with more technical ability as a boxer then Trinidad. No question.

 

I have watched many many Trinidad fights, and have never seen him do things in the ring from a boxing stand point that Miguel Cotto can do. He certainly doesn't posses the movement or the fluid combination punching whilst moving in and out.

 

Boy who is showing ignorance now lil homie??? I give you a actually fight where Tito outboxes a pure boxer and you rather me make up a situation Look at the way Tito was controlling the distance on Carr. Tito made adjustments. negating Carr's superior speed with timing. Learn something kid. Don't get in to the my boxing dick is bigger then yours bravado and soak up some knowledge.

 

Your opinion on Tito doesn't show me you watched early Trinidad.
B/C in his prime Tito was a wicked combination puncher. See his title winning effort against Maurice Blocker for an example.

So what exactly does Cotto do so much better then a prime Tito(Prime not the one you saw fight winky wright)

The bolded part had me rotl...like Cotto is Mayweather or something.

 

I never said Cotto is a master boxer for one, so stop talking ****. I said he is better then Trinidad which he is from a boxing stand point. Secondly, Blocker was an old shot peice of ****, who fought like crap. He didn't come out fired up, and continually stood right in front of Tito, trying to palm shots away with his open glove. Tito was using effective pressure, as he was vs Carr, not a great boxing ability like Cotto utilised vs Mosley, beating him from the outside and the inside, at times using counter punching and effective defence. You are just reconfirming your own lack of analytical ability here.

 

The main problem for Cotto is that Tito was a monster at 147. His power was at optimum level at 147. Cotto is slicker and has better boxing acumen. Unfortunately, it's nullified by Tito's strength and punching power. Plus, Tito is a big guy at 147. I figure Cotto will take the early half, even dropping Tito around the 2nd or 3rd, but by round 6, he'll feel the pressure. Cotto is a tough SOB so he'll hang around up to the 9th and the ref we'll save him.

 

lil homie... HAHAHA LMAO @ U. You try hard. I wanted you to give a scenario, because if Tito is the more diverse and well rounded boxer then you should have no problem providing one. Clearly you cannot. Tito controlled distance on Carr yes, and used EFFECTIVE PRESSURE. So does Castillo and Chavez. Would you say they are superior boxers though, who are very well rounded, or would you say they are excellent pressure fighters? Cotto can do this, but he can also utilise great ring generalmanship, good combination punching off the back foot, and can be comfotable in maintaining a solid defence without countering if the situation requires it. Trinidad has CONSTANTLY had poor balance, and bad footwork throughout his career. When he plants his feet he is an effective combination puncher, but not whilst using quick in and out movement. Please name me ONE fight where you have seen him do this?

 

Cotto is the better boxer all around, but H2H I got them getting into exchanges and Tito will get the better and knock Cotto out. Cotto would have to box Tito. I can just see Tito catching Cotto. Dont forget, tito was a hell of a body puncher too.

 

You said cotto can put on a MASTERFUL DISPLAY OF BOXING

Regarding Blocker, i didn't ask you all of that i just stated to look at the combo's he was throwing.

Did you not see my other post regarding what he used to beat Carr. That was not just effective pressure:nono