Trinidad vs. Duran of Montreal vintage

Also, should go without saying but I was assuming that Ray wouldn't fight the dumb fight he fought in Montreal in this hypothetical matchup. I'm talking about the mobile version of Ray who made Duran crumble psychologically and quit like a child in the rematch.

 

I've seen the fight several times, Duran won that fight and in fact SRL was a bit lucky to have gotten out of the 2nd round. Leonard himself said he didn't really know where he was for about 3 rounds after that punch in the 2nd round sent him reeling. As for styles making fights, I know they do, but specifically what would Tito do to fend off Duran for 12-15 rounds?

Outbox him? Cause he's not going to out fight him.

 

And as I said earlier, the Montreal version of SRL would have beaten Tito rather handily.

Actually there's a school of thought that says Duran made SRL fight that style of fight, and the rematch was a watered down weaker version of Duran who didn't have enough strength to bull dog him into the ropes and keep him there.

But don't take my word for it, read what SRL himself had to say about it. Those comments about Duran's lack of strength and power on his punches relative to the first fight, come from him, I'm simply repeating what he's said.

 

I'd have to say Duran...but I don't think he would fight Trinidad as he fought Leonard. Firstly because of Tito's power, and secondly because stylistically Tito would come to Duran...Duran absolutely excelled when people came to him. At junior middle the gaps closes considerably..IMO.

 

I pretty much agree with most of this, although I'm not entirely convinced that Tito had more power than SRL. I do think it would be a great fight at 154.

 

Wow. That's quite an exaggeration!!

 

I know, but that's irrelevant to the thread question. I believe that SRL made it harder on himself by fighting a stupid fight...with his heart instead of his head....but Tito is another kettle of fish altogether...a more limited, straight forward proposition for Duran...and Duran, as I said, would have had all the answers vs Trinidad.

 

1) That "school of thought" re: the first fight makes no sense at all. Duran made Ray Leonard refrain from circling and moving because he was a strong bulldog?? :huh If Ray weren't bigger, longer, and much faster than Duran, that theory might seem less far-fetched but...:bart

2) As has been discussed in other threads, Leonard's interviews and commentary are worthless. He says whatever he thinks sounds best at a given moment.

 

So you're going to discard the word of one of the two guys that was actually in the fight, and come up with so kind of alternative universe, ya that makes sense.

I'm sure you'll come up with something, but what possible reason would SRL have to lie about something like this?

 

:think What basis would you have to doubt that?

 

Guys like SRL and Foreman tell stories all the time. They're hams. Only *motivated* listeners and the naive take them at face value. Sorry, I know that it bothers you intensely when people don't give Duran as much praise as you think he deserves, but Ray Leonard's stories mean nothing to me.

 

Flip the question around, on what basis can you say Tito hits harder than SRL?

 

Foreman I can agree with, SRL on the other hand has often said things that put him in a bad light, so to lie about those things makes no sense to me.