Trinidad vs. Duran of Montreal vintage

What's this got to do with Duran? Do you think if you KO a bunch of journeymen fighters in the first round, it means as much as KOing a world class fighter?

Look I don't mind conceding this point that Tito punches harder than SRL because I don't really care all that much about this topic.

 

This would be Dejesus III all over again.

Mismatch.

 

LOL. You're the one who took us down this path by questioning whether Trinidad had significantly greater punching power than Leonard, a point that has obvious relevance to the question of whether there's any plausible way that Tito beats Duran. I am glad that you are willing to concede the point now. :good

 

Just an opinion about Tito's power...but with that said, Leonard set his shots up better, better speed, and very accurate. Leonard was very dangerous offensive fighter.

 

I thought you only cheerlead for Hagler? Duran too? You have good taste in fighters but you should put the pom-poms away. Unlike some of you guys I have no man-love for any boxers. I see them for their strengths and their limitations.

The world saw that Ray didn't even get on his bike and try to move the way he should have... The world also saw a very close, competitive fight anyway (at least the judges, much of the media, and the part of the world that can recognize clean punching).

"Rematches mean nothing"?? What kind of nonsense is this? That, my friend, is the type of jibberish that guys who have agendas type.

I would pick Duran over Trinidad, but OP's question was whether any case could be made for Trinidad possibly winning and I think that the case is pretty straightforward.

 

Has anyone on this thread picked Tito? If not that pretty much tells you all you need to know.

 

Try substituting the words " didn't even get on his bike " for " couldn't even get on his bike because Duran wouldn't let him " and you just might make some sense.

Other than that your post is neither here nor there really, merely your opinion. Oh, and I don't think stopping the likes of Kevin Leushing compares to stopping fighters like Benitez, Hearns Lalonde, or even Mayweather Sr, do you?

Plus you made a big thing out of Tito stopping Joppy, but fail to mention him getting stopped himself 4 months later by 36 yr old Hopkins who for all his achievements can hardly be called a knock out artist.

 

regarding highlighted part: Watch it Foxy. Without rematches with McCall and Rahmann, your guy Lewis's ATG status would be much lower. You can't generalize that rematches mean nothing.

I do agree with you that Duran would beat Trinidad. Trinidad doesn't have the movement to bother him, and Duran can negate Trinidad's size and power advantages by getting inside and working him over.

 

Montreal Duran stops Tito late after a comprehensive schooling.

End thread.

 

:good

 

You seem to have misunderstood the topic: it wasn't about whether Tito was a better fighter than Ray Leonard or had more impressive accomplishments--it was just about who had better punching power. The only person on the thread who questioned the punching power gap ultimately conceded.

 

I didn't concede because l thought l was wrong l conceded because l don't care enough about the topic to ramble on about it any further. It was essentially a side topic that ended up boring me. And the whole point of the threat was whether or not Tito could beat Duran and virtually everyone who responded to this thread said no with the lone exception of yourself.

 

But maybe it ended up boring you because you were wrong...? :think :yep

 

So you know nothing about SRL then? SRL NEVER fought like he did in the second fight with Duran. That wasn't how he fought before or after. Before the Duran fight, both he and his trainer made it clear... SRL was the bigger fighter.. stronger fight... longer and taller fighter. They basically said they would walk him down and KO him. So he tried the strat that had worked for him time and time again but this time it failed. It wasn't cause he fought the wrong fight. He fought the same fight and style he always did. Duran was just better than him that night.

 

:huh Leonard also circled (and at times ran for the first 5 rounds) against Hearns and against Hagler. His legs were key to him beating his toughest opponents. Am I missing something here?

You're making my point-- Leonard intentionally tried to stand up to and walk down Duran that fight. :good You and I see eye to eye on that. You seem to disagree with those other guys who were suggesting that Duran somehow prevented Leonard from running. :thumbsup