Trivia: Non-Americans who met the most HOFers.

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  1. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If we made a list of the boxers NOT born in the US, who fought the most HOFers... what would the top-5 look like?

    (HOFer: Member of the IBHOF, regardless of category)


    1. Jimmy McLarnin 15 (BeerGut)
    2. Sam Langford 13 (BeerGut)
    3. Johnny Risko 12 (hhascup)
    4. (tie) Charlie White 11 (hhascup)
    4. (tie) Frankie wallace 11 (hhascup)










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  2. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PR is a US territory , so does it count as US or not ?

    In no order between them :

    Gavillan
    Ihetu
    Fitzsimmons
    Langford
    Ceferino Garcia

    or

    Kid Azteca
    McLarnin (I meant McLarnin and it turned out as Canzoneri after all)
    "Young Corbett 3"


    I am probably "correct" about 4/5 .


    10 years from now I am quite sure these will be just as eligible 2 such a top 5 :


    Pacquiao (with time he will be anyway)
    Marquez
    Barera
    Morales
    Camacho
    Duran


    20 years from now these may be in:
    Glen Johnson
    Carl Froch



    Meaningless worthless factoid anyway.
    This is like antiknowledge of boxing 4 me.
     
  3. BeerGut

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    The following are in double figures from what I can see

    Jimmy McLarnin
    Freddie Welsh
    Sam Langford
    Johnny Dundee
     
  4. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are right:
    McLarnin 15
    Langford 13
    Welsh 10
    Dundee 10

    McLarnin and Langford occupy the first two spots on our list - while Welsh and Dundee finish just outside the top 5.
     
  5. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Johnny Dundee was American. He emigrated to the US when he was 5 years old.

    Langford and McLarnin were American (Canada is part of North America). And frankly its silly to pretend they were Canadian fighters. Between the two of them how many fights did they have in Canada and how much of their development as professionals took place in Canada? As far as Im concerned if your are a product of boxing culture from a certain country then you are a boxer from that country. Its why its silly to call Bob Fitzsimmons the first British HW champion. Australia, New Zealand, and the US have more of a claim to Fitzsimmons' fistic greatness than Cornwall does.
     
  6. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's just a harmless trivia question, man... so what are you getting all worked up about? It's not about whether you're a product of this country or that country. It's not about opinions - it's a factual question about boxers BORN outside the US.
     
  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    So, all Mexican and Argentine fighters are American, too?
     
  8. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wonder if Nigel Benn, Steve Collins and Graciano Rocchigiani will get in.

    Then Chris Eubank would've fought six fights against HOFers, including Calzaghe and the rematches.
     
  9. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yup.

    Mexico is part of North America. Argentina is part of South America.
     
  10. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Im not all worked up. Im merely pointing out there is a difference between being "non-american" and being born outside of the United States and also that merely being born outside of the United States (or even living your entire life outside of the United States, such as somewhere like Canada or Mexico) doesnt make you non-American. I was also pointing out that I see little need to emphasis where a fighter was born if where he was born has little to no bearing on his career, his training, etc. I dont care if I was born in the United States and then moved to France when I was 9 years old, started boxing for France at 18 and won a championship at 25 in France and never fought anywhere else then as far as Im concerned Im a French fighter, not an American one.
     
  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And by "met the most HOFers" I thought it means to counting fighters, not fights. But, it is a worthless piece of knowledge anyway.
     
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    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. hhascup

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    Jimmy McLarnin
    Sam Langford
    Johnny Risko
    Charley White
    Frankie Wallace
     
  15. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, I kind of figured you would get this - though I wasn't quite sure, if you wanted to play! :good