Trivia

My guess too.

 

Tony Canzoneri??

 

He got DQd when he was young.

 

Cheers.

I didn’t check but I knew he got stopped only in his last fight (by Bummy Davis I think?) and I knew he had a lot of them.

Well that’s me officially stumped then lol

 

It's now been a couple of days, since anyone took a stab at this latest question - so maybe it's best to just put it to rest.

Longest "non-stoppage defeat" streak at beginning of career by a world champ:

1. Battling Levinsky 205
2. Jimmy Goodrich 195 (entire career)
3. Freddie Welsh 161
4/5. Joe Lynch 156 (entire career)
4/5. Johnny Dundee 156

 

This one is more of an exercise to see if we can figure it out. I’m not even sure how to quantify a winner since there are two elements:

What’s the longest period of time between two fighters rewatching (between fighting the first and second times) ... but here’s the kicker ... with the fewest number of total bouts in between?

For instance, Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns went 7 years, 8 months (rounding up a day or two) between their bouts — Leonard had only four fights in between, Hearns 16 for a total of 20.

What are some others?

 

Well the one I came up with was Nelson vs Fenech 2 to 3. 15 fights, 16 years. But that doesn't really apply since you said between the first and second.

I'll be back!

 

Yeah I thought it best to eliminate some of those one-off comeback deals where you’ve got one or both fighters reuniting for a spectacle payday.

 

It's a difficult question to answer, as there are two components. What's more important - the number of years or the number of fights?

Holmes and Weaver met 21years, 4months and 25 days apart, but both had a lot of fights (more than 70 in total) in between - so I don't know, if that's what you're looking for.

John Henry Jackson and Kentucky Rosebud fought 25 years, 4 months and 18 days apart - but since they met several times in between, they are of course DQ'd from this question.

 

Difficult ones.
Which famous ex fighter seconded Frank Moran against Bombadier Billy Wells in London?
Corinthian George Mitchell challenged ? to a private match in which he was knocked down four times ,enlisted in the Black Watch as a Leutenant at the outbreak of WW1 ,and was killed by a grenade burst, which champion did he fight in that private match?
This fighter fought Sam Langford and was later gassed at Ypres in WW1,who was he?
This ex champion was hired by Francois Deschamps to teach Georges Carpentier the dirty tricks of the trade,who was he?
Newly crowned champion Jack Johnson gave an exhibition against Victor McLaglen, McLaglen was a late sub for which fighter?
He fought Harry Greb and also acted as the third man in o e of his fights,who was he?

 

George Carpentier was the champion Mitchell fought in a private match.

Also, the champ hired to teach Carpentier dirty tricks... hmm, not 100% sure, but my guess is Dixie KId.

Gunboat Smith refereed the fight where Tiger Flowers took Greb's middleweight crown.

 

Holmes-Ali was originally scheduled for outside the U.S. a la Ali-Foreman in Zaire and the Thrilla in Manila.

Name the city and country.

 

Rio de Janeiro, Brazil?

 

Nope. This surprised me when I came across it ... Ali was at the Holmes-Scott LeDoux fight drumming up interest and Howard Cosell brings it up — Holmes says after he’s signed three contracts to fight Ali (which I also don’t remember ever knowing) and he will believe this happens when it happens.

It happened three months later in Las Vegas, but it was supposed to happen elsewhere. I guess this country backed out on putting up millions as host site.

EDIT: Murad Muhammad apparently did announce that he was going to promote Holmes-Ali in Rio de Janeiro but the report I found said an official there immediately said ‘no that’s not happening.’ So while announced there I don’t think it’s fair to say it was ever going to take place. Murad was either dreaming, ridiculously hopeful or just throwing Rio out there hoping to lure another investor city.

 

Oh right, well I read on a report that they had it signed in Rio, and didn't do it since the football stadium would need to be fitted with gear for the show which would destroy the grass. Ali and Holmes both even got paid compensation.