True or False: Canelo. beats all 160s (besides ggg) with ease

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  1. spiderrico12

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    yet you think rosado beats canelo and lemiuex dominated him.

    Lemiuex was 18 or 19 when he lost that fight and didn't train properly.
     
  2. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I stopped reading at Khan is way better/accomplished
     
  3. The Akbar One

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    Williams puts on Canelo as well.
     
  4. IsaL

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    Excuses are like assholes :deal
     
  5. IsaL

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    Saul Alvarez would destroy all these slow ass MWs.

    The few that can move a little would get UD.

    I know many of you guys are new to boxing or just plain dumb and can't see a difference in skill level.

    Alvarez
    Cotto
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  6. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You probably should of kept going I'm not talking about size because that is another factor as well since y'all like to bring up all this am stuff former Olympic medalist, multiple time World Champ, with a better set of wins even his recent ducking run than Jacobs or Saunders.

    In not big on Khan at all but skill for skill Khan>Jacobs and Saunders at least as a pure boxer and had the speed to get off for a few rds, my whole point is you say oh Khan hit him a few times with a jab.... Well why is that because Khan for a few rds at least is one of the fastest guys out. Now could Alvarez face that is faster than Khan or Lara or Cotto or Mayweather or even Trout??? Who can he face that had the defense of Mayweather to neutralize him?? You bring up fights from Alvarez saying oh well look at this well who can do that?

    If I'm a 10/10 on defense and your a 5/10 even if we use it the same way if your not as good the result isn't going to be the same.
     
  7. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Also I'm not talking about resumes when I say better/more accomplished I'm talking skill wise as a boxer Khan is a better BOXER than Jacobs/Saunders
     
  8. chitownfightfan

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    You know elChica......Im not sure Canelo beats ANY of the top 10 on neutral ground.

    Lee would have the R hand equalizer which would be open all night vs a CPer like Yeller.

    BJS has a granite chin, fights from the SP stance, and has an undefeated mentality. Canelo can NOT WIN vs BJS in the UK, and would likely be gifted a SD in the US.

    CEJ is ALL wrong for Yeller since he doesnt fight well at all off the front foot, and it's nearly impossible to counter Jr when he's using his length behind the jab. And his power seems middling, but you gotta think how Yeller, who's never been tested by a guy his own size, much less, larger than him, faster than him, and with a sizeable reach advantage. It would be nothing less than humiliating for Yeller if he were to be waiting all night for a one punch KO vs a guy like Jr.

    Jacobs vs Yeller would be much like Kirkland v Yeller, EXCEPT, Jacobs is ALWAYS in the gym, and unlike Kirkland, he's active, in shape, and wouldnt need to drain himself down 55lbs in 6 weeks. Jacobs could easily one punch Yeller and put him to sleep. Though, off the top 5, this is his most winnable due to Jacobs own soft whiskers.

    Lemiuex is also a 50/50 type fight, and probably Canelo's best chance at showing his great CPing ability. Lemiuex has absolutely devastating power, but he can't fight off the back foot to save his life, much like Beterbiev up N at 75. Yeller could easily counter him early then step on the jab and hook downstairs and play cat and mouse all night vs the slower, sometimes plodding Canadian banger.

    Quillin, I actually think could box Yeller behind his long jab. which is above average, and his L hook is as lethal as Lemiuex's. This could also be a stylistic nightmare for Yeller, since like Jacobs, Quillin is ALWAYS in good fighting shape. In spite of his 161 weight vs Lee.

    I dont count Soliman, Wade, or Cotto as top 10 MWs.
    Cotto is a LMW, in spite of his 166 lb rehydration average.
    Soliman is 114 years old.
    Wade is a natural SMW and is plum ignorant for boiling down when he's far better suited at 168.
    So, onto my next MW, Khurtsizde. Power galore, but smaller than hell and easy to outbox. Canelo's size might give him the edge, but Khurtszide punches like a SMW, and takes a good punch too. I'd give yeller a 70% chance of getting a UD either in Germany or a 80% chance at lasting the distance in the US and earning the same result.

    In spite of gassing trying to KO the giant Willie Nelson, I rate Tony Harrison as a top 10. He's really a complete fighter. What a Baseball @nalyst would call a 5 tool player. He's championship material, and much like Lemiuex, Harrison made a rookie mistake vs a big puncher and a solid top 10 type veteran. That said, I think he'd likely be outboxed by Yeller and likely walk into a L hook. Yeller is only a yr older, but has mixed it up with far more experienced pros, and has shown decent versatility. I'd give Yeller a 90% chance of beating Harrison in spite of Harrisons @rsenal.

    HNN.....Yeller by KO. Aint no GBP referee going to allow HNN to continue to the cards when he's been down 3X, and he would be before the 6th. :lol:

    #1....GGG KO4 Yeller....soon as he's done playing with his food. :deal:deal
     
  9. rodney

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    False . Conversely -- Canelo loses to all of them. Camelot is becoming a BUM.
     
  10. BCS8

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    "Oh! I'm not a real middleweight! They're so big an' mean! I won't give any weight away to these bad, bad boys! I will create my own weightclass and drain them to death so I can win!" -Canelo