True or False: Floyd never defeated fighters as great as Crawford, Stevenson, Davis, Ennis, orSpence

Forrest would have been an interesting fight because of his height, jab and he can fight on the inside and outside. Even Roger Mayweather said it would be one of his toughest fights. Floyd doesn't have the power of mayorga and also Floyd beat Shane when he was past his prime

 

Paul Williams wouldn't have been favored over pbf. Hearns wouldve been but not Williams.

 

In "his prime" Vernon Forrest got outboxed by Ricardo Mayorga, for Christ's sake.

Mosley was coming off a stoppage wins over Mayorga and Margarito when Floyd won 11 of 12 rounds over him.

Floyd Mayweather isn't losing to Vernon Forrest.

I never heard such nonsense.

 

When in the hell did Floyd Mayweather AVOID Vernon Forrest?

 

Yea, I agree. There was a time when Forrest would have been a threat but it was never made. I thought the same with Paul Williams, but then he lost. To be fair, them both losing didn't help make the fight with Floyd happen either. You can bet your bottom dollar, had someone like Terry Norris been active and still in his prime at the time, Floyd would have never touched him with a ten foot pole. Sugar Ray Leonard made himself a superstar because he had Benitez, Duran, Hearns, and Hagler. He went after those guys and beat them. Had Hearns been fighting in Floyd's era, he would have been another opponent that Floyd avoided.

 

You don't seem to understand that styles makes fights. And Mosley was outboxed by Mayorga prior to the stoppage while Margarito was caught with loaded gloves. Noone is saying that Forrest is better than Floyd or destroys him, but his style would be tough to deal with. Similar to Hearns vs Barkley, the second fight made him fight stubbornly and affected him mentally

 

I've been a long lurker. I might do other weights later. I'll start with 135.

Crawford's won titles at 135, 140 & 147......
Alejandro Sanabria, Burns, Beltran, Postal, Indongo, Horn. That's the god gauntlet of title holders. It's like he fought all the avengers.

Crawford fought Gamboa at lightweight. Who fought 3 fights in 3 years. Incredibly inactive, wartorn and hadn't fought for 1 year prior to that fight. Landed so many shots and had Crawford seriously hurt. Crawford was also much bigger. You think someone like Manny couldn't handle either of them at that weight?

Haney, Teo, Tank, Kambosos, Loma etc? So you think Haney is going to outpoint Mayweather? With his shorter range, lesser speed/power, weak footwork, terrible inside game, lower iq, less exp, weaker defense, cleaner fighter, homebrand china chin etc? Oh wait. I'm sure Kambosos would 'definitely' handle Mayweather because Haney is far better....

Tank? We've seen Floyd take far harder shots than Tank. Floyd would outpoint him with an incredibly easy night. He'd take both Kambosos & Tank on the same night. With barely a scratch. It'd be like Chico & Gatti.

Smaller LSC was pushing Tank back. He barely threw anything against Romero. Isaac Cruz had him clinching for dear life how many times. Manny's chin, speed, unorthordox shots, speed & power would be a lot for tank to handle. It took Tank 12 rounds to KO old, worn, inactive & broken leg Gamboa.

Do you think Haney's chin can survive Manny? Do you think Linares offense is better than Manny's? That jab & pop isn't going to stop nor land nearly as much on a prime manny. He 100% gets's stopped in this fight. Very early stoppage.

We've seen Teo's gameplan vs Loma. Floyd would've executed it far better.

Floyd & Manny often gave up height & weight advantage. They fought guys bigger than them at weights that they didn't belong at. Meanwhile Crawford has barely fought anyone of note and is often the weight bully at a weight he's too big for.

Weather you like Floyd & Manny and all that crap about ducking, ducking, cherry picking etc.... The 135's haven't even fought each other or anyone of note... Kambosos who barely did anything & has scrapped by his last few fights, is the only one with the balls. Well maybe it's the hunger for money bags & no fear of a loss.

Crawford's resume is so subpar. At his advanced age. It's impossible for him to catch up to Manny & Floyd's resume. So disrespectful.

 

I understand just fine. You don't seem to understand none of them are beating Floyd Mayweather.

Mosley won ONE ROUND against Mayweather. Beating Mosley means nothing when compared to Floyd Mayweather. Forrest couldn't beat Mayorga in two tries. Forrest lost to freaking Sergio Mora. Most people thought Forrest lost to Ike Quartey.

I don't know who pulled Vernon Forrest's name out of a hat ... hell, Forrest was dead before Mayweather even returned to the ring after the Hatton fight.

But Mayweather didn't duck nor would he have lost to Vernon Forrest.

If that's who people are now looking at as someone Floyd "avoided" ... THEY are lost.

Enough already.

 

Miguel Cotto is a Hall of Famer. So are Oscar de la Hoya, Shane Mosley, Arturo Gattie, Juan Manuel Marquez.

Ricky Hatton is on the Ballot for induction. So is Genaro Hernandez.

Not to mention Canelo and Pacquiao will be first ballot Hall of Famers the first year they are eligible.

I don't see any Hall of Famers on Bud Crawford's opponent list. Not one. Let alone possibly NINE.

Hell, guys like Jose Luis Castillo, Diego Corrales and Marcos Maidana who Mayweather beat, who aren't even Hall of Famers, were better than practically everyone Bud Crawford has faced.

Stop already. Felix Diaz?

 

Vernon wouldn’t have been a big of a challenge as Hearns. But yes, he would have been a tough match stylistically.