True or False: Floyd never defeated fighters as great as Crawford, Stevenson, Davis, Ennis, orSpence

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  1. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That wasn't the question though, the question was "prime for prime", were they better. Floyd defeated fighters that were in fact "greater" than all of the aforementioned. There should be no question of this. Other than Maidana, Castillo and Zab, they had already established themselves as greater than who the topic starter asked this of.

    Corrales was p4p elite and the actual favorite against Floyd, this was a prime vs. prime fight,
    Oscar was Oscar, that fight was what it was..........
    Cotto was 3 division, current top JMW and still a p4p elite, and ranked
    Manny was Manny, (both he and Floyd were declined, this is peer vs. peer), he was p4p ranked
    Shane was the top WW and had just destroyed the divisions boogeyman, he was p4p elite and ranked
    and Canelo was "the future".

    All were arguably as good as Crawford and Spence at the time, Floyd fought them and were more proven at the time than Boots and Tank. None of the mentioned were over the hill when he fought them except Oscar, and that wasn't a very close fight, and Manny, and Floyd was just as over the hill as Manny was, honestly more given the fact Manny still operated on a higher level after the fight. So prime for prime they were equal/better, and most were in fact p4p ranked and quite highly ranked when Floyd fought them,
     
  2. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I believe he means Floyd didn't fight many athletic urban guys. Which is very accurate.
     
  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Completely agree. P4P is not an objective fact in fact it's irrelevant taking into account that we base a boxer's worth on who they have fought and beat. The fact is I like Crawford and Spence but neither have fought as many elite fighters than the boxers in Floyd's era.
    That doesn't mean say Crawford couldn't beat some of the guys in a H2H but at this point it's unproven. It's no different to the hyperbole with a few of the Heavyweights today until they all fight each other it's fantasy land and purely hypothetical.
     
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  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Floyd beat better guys who were P4P guys.
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Let's just take Crawford. He's for real, maybe the realest of the bunch, I love him, but I think he'd have his hands all kinds of full with guys like Chico, Castillo, Judah, Cotto, in the same versions Floyd fought. People have always picked on every version of every fighter Floyd fights, after the fact, but these guys are serious muthas. Cotto will punch you right in the dink and throw you over his shoulder. These are G's.
     
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  7. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You must have not watched boxing back then or been sleeping. For a pretty long run he only fought fighters of that caliber. It was literally 10 years of trying to find people that could beat him. A win over Canelo dwarfs anything any of the fighters mentioned have done.
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd 'Color Line" Mayweather.

    Clearly, instead of fighting Miguel Cotto in 2012, Floyd should've fought Devon Alexander for the IBF Welterweight Title.

    And, in 2013, Floyd should've fought IBF Super Welterweight Champ Ishe Smith instead of the WBC/WBA champ Canelo.

    Instead of fighting Maidana, in 2014 he should've fought Cornelius Bundrage for the IBF Super welterweight belt.

    Screw Cotto and Canelo and Maidana. You didn't get much more "urban" than Devon "St. Louis Ghetto" Alexander and Ishe (Oluwa Kamau Ali) Smith and a black guy who called himself K9. That's what they call police dogs. That's so urban.

    That would've showed them. Floyd ... always trying to keep the black man down.

    :hang
     
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  9. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure. Cotto would probably lose to Ugas
     
  10. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Like who? Manny, Cotto, Oscar, and Mosley were out their prime. Canelo was too green and Hmm was weight drained. Floyd marginally lost to Madianna, Castillo, and Oscar.
     
  11. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    hard to beat the #1 p4p when YOU are the #1 p4p. LOL. Do you want mayweather to punch his face in front of a mirror in the ring?

    this thread is utterly stupid.
     
  12. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How is it stupid? Is it hard to admit that fighters today are better than Floyd's era?
     
  13. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    lol. THAT stupid, man.
     
  14. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    put a poll, and stop wasting our time.
     
  15. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    False with the caveat that none of the fighters Floyd beat were in their prime (aside from maybe Canelo).

    DLH and Pac are both better than the fighters mentioned without question. But again they were both faded versions by the time Mayweather fought them. I'd say Canelo, Cotto and Marquez were just as good as anyone from this era.

    I'll admit to being a Mayweather hater but this era really isn't that good TBH. Mayweather's era of fighters was better although it was far weaker than the 2000 class of Welterweight / Super Welterweights.