Try to Make the Best Fighter by Taking Another Fighter's Best Attribute

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  1. Barger

    Barger New Member Full Member

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    Here's an idea, probably not an original one but still semi-interesting, that I've had knocking around for a bit. Let's say you could give one great fighter another guy's best trait - for example, Ali with Foreman's power, Julio Cesar Chavez with Sweet Pea's defense, Floyd Mayweather with Antonio Margarito's gloves, etc. How much do you think you could get a fighter to improve by swapping only one asset?

    The fighter had to have fought the guy he's swapping with, though, it would be kind of lame to see every welterweight with Hearn's power or whatever, and try to keep it to the same weight class too, although I think it would be funny to see the trail of corpses if you gave Jimmy Wilde Deontay Wilder's right hand or something.

    I thought this up cuz I was wondering which of the four kings would be the best in this scenario - Hearns with Hagler's chin would be broken, but Hagler with Leonard's speed would finally stop losing decisions all the time, and Duran with Hagler's size would make arguably the P4P best of the four into the biggest of the four as well (although this is the lone exception to that rule I made about weight class swaps, don't do that unless the fighter actually fought the person who they're swapping size with).

    Honestly, I would probably take Hearns with Hagler's chin just because I don't think he loses pretty much any of the fights he lost in real life without that weakness, but I could see people go a lot of ways with that particular thought experiment. But that question is like the Russian doll inside of the main question. Give me your best, or even just most interesting ideas you can conjure with this.
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Give Wlad his brother's chin.
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Give Hearns a top chin and he'd be awful hard to beat.

    Give Eddie Mustafa Muhammad the determination and drive in the ring of a Larry Holmes and he'd be terrifying.

    I'm not saying Jones had a weak chin at his best (i believe his durability went down after moving back form Heavy) but slide Hagler's mandible in there and he'd be virtually unbeatable at 160 and 168.

    I'll do some more tomorrow.
     
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  4. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    Give Ken Norton Ali's chin and he dominates the 70s. He doesn't lose to Foreman, Shavers ... maybe even Holmes.

    Golota ... give him an acceptable working brain so he stop doing stupid things, heck even a regular chimpanzee brain would do, and you get an instant world champion.
     
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  5. Barger

    Barger New Member Full Member

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    If we're doing the brain swap thing, honestly I think Mike with Holyfield's brain has a 0% chance of losing to Buster Douglas, and very well could beat Holyfield himself with that level of mental endurance and determination. And imagine what he could do with Evander's juice :boxing1

    Also, John, I love the profile picture, Patrick Bateman is my idol:ARMS1: and American Psycho is just a great movie
     
  6. BCS8

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    You know, if Wlad had Vitali's chin, he may never have gone through the Dr Octopus era and we may have had non-stop action fights instead of mostly borefests.
     
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  7. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Give Oleg Maskaev George Chuvalo's chin.
     
  8. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know it was just an example, but Ali with Foreman’s power is tough to top.
     
  9. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Joe Louis with Muhammad Ali's speed.
     
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  10. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Or Vitali some actual, discernible talent, like his brother had.
     
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    Hopnchop New Member Full Member

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  13. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Give Muhammad Ali the power of George Foreman/Sonny Liston, or Sugar Ray Leonard the power of Tommy Hearns.

    You can do the same with Pernell Whitaker and Felix Trinidad’s power.

    They were already so great to begin with. Imagine them with freakish power.
     
  14. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Joe Louis with Archie Moore's longevity. Would've held the title until Liston came along.
    Muhammad Ali with Joe Louis' discipline. Would've never shown out of shape for Frazier, Norton, Young or Shavers.

    Harry Greb with Mike Tyson's explosive power.
    Lennox Lewis with Braddock's chin.
     
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  15. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting point about Ali & Louis & the difference in discipline.