Tsyzu vs Hatton can someone explain what happened?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by donizhere, Feb 3, 2010.


  1. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kosta wasnt that active b4 that fight,was 36 and it was his time to lose and leave,,,,Ricky was on his way up
     
  2. roly

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    that clip doesn't show that at all you should get your eyes tested, even the AMERICAN comentator on that clip says "if anyone is going to be deducted points it will be floyd because he's doing all the holding".
     
  3. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I heard that, but answer me this...... what exactly was Hatton doing then? How did Mayweather end up in headlocks and with Hatton's head constantly in his face? I understand PBF held, pushed off with his elbows, etc.

    But who initiated that type of fight? What's a fighter supposed to do in response. You have to try to look at it somewhat objectively.

    Will you deny that it was Ricky's one and only tactic to do his patented punch, rush, hold, wrestle? And that he was trying to employ that tactic in the Mayweather fight?

    Cortes( I can't believe I am defending a ref) only started breaking it up after it became painfully obvious that Rick was going to keep rushing/wrestling and PBF would keep using elbows and the fight was going to go down the toilet. I have no issues with him.

    I was rooting for Hatton that night. I was hoping he would shut Floyd up.
     
  4. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm actually not trying to defend Mayweather. But Cortes had nothing to do with Hatton losing that fight. He made them fight, as opposed to wrestle. It's not his fault that Hatton lost the fight.
     
  5. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he wasn't initiating the holding, he's allowed to get close, and when he did floyd held, it's that simple. do you expect hatton to box on the outside against floyd with his 7" reach advantage. and most of the time when hatton had him in a headlock is was because pbf was ducking down. i'm not critising pbf because hatton's no angel but in this fight it's unfair to blame hatton for the holding, especially early on.

    anyway we'll have to agree to disagree on this.
     
  6. roly

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    but he was laying all the blame on hatton, blaming him for stuff he didn't do and often breaking themn before they were even clinching. cortez didn't make hatton lose the fight but after the fight it a lot of people agreed that it was one of the poorest and most biased recent performances of a top referee.
     
  7. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know he took the point away, and that is debatable, although it was pretty blatant. I can't say he blamed Hatton for everything, I'll take your word for that, I'd have to go back and watch it again. I won't. I'm not looking to defend Cortes' motivations or PBF at all. I though he did a decent job simply because he forced them to fight and cut out all the bullshite.
    It effected Hatton far more profoundly because it dulled an integral part of his gameplan, but I never felt it was due to a bias or anything. It certainly seemed to me that Hatton was the aggressor when it came to the wrestling. The curtailing of it just ended up being detrimental to Hatton because PBF is a better boxer and had all the advantages in that fight, including size.(Typical PBF). Personally, I wish it would have benefited Hatton more as I was rooting for him that night. But as a boxing fan, I was glad Cortes finally put and end to the extracurriculars.
     
  8. Ilesey

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    I find it highly amusing reading the butthurt fans who fail to give Hatton any credit for that win.
     
  9. thatguy

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    shoot yourself in the face
     
  10. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what's part of what he said is wrong?
     
  11. NigelBennFan

    NigelBennFan New Member Full Member

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    listen hatton fought a great fight against tyzu you wasnt calling him over the hill before he fought hatton give ricky some f****n credit for once he beat him fair and square and i am a massive hatton fan but the same way floyd beat him fair and square no excuses and pacman but dont get slagging ricky off he was a very good fighter.
     
  12. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, Hatton fought his fight and made Tszyu quit, simple as that. Tszyu had many opportunities to win, and to finish the fight or on his shield.
     
  13. NigelBennFan

    NigelBennFan New Member Full Member

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    thats all i was asking show rick a bit of respect he was a very good fighter maybe not the up there with your pacs ,floyd etc but still one hard fuc**r to beat in his prime!
     
  14. NigelBennFan

    NigelBennFan New Member Full Member

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    if your going to pick at flies you could say oscar was drained at the weight ,hatton was shot , or cotto was broken before pac beat them but you dont and rightly so because he is the man .but for every fighter you could make a case!!!!
     
  15. Doc (aka Meke)

    Doc (aka Meke) Active Member Full Member

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    Don't be so sure about it. There are loads of way avoiding bull's rushes and if you know anything about Kostya, then you'll know that he was a complete fighter and that strrategy was in his arsenal.