Tszyu vs Locche

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see Locche pilling up points on Tszyu early but ultimately getting wore down by Tszyu's pressure and strength. I like Tszyu in this one but could see why some would go with Locche on points.
     
  3. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tszyu is made to look bad but Locche having no offense kills him here and he loses on points anywhere but Argentina.
     
  4. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Tszyu decision. Not an exciting bout, due to Locches defensive instincts and limited offense.
     
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  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    A near shutout for El Untoccable....and I like and admire Tszyu's abilities as a great fighter.
     
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  6. surfinghb1

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    I tend to agree RC and I like KT a lot.. Locche to clever for KT when he's trying to land his straight right from the outside
     
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  7. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I too like KT, but Locce is a bad matchup for him. He wouldn't touch Locce, just too slick. And Locce has no offensive shills??? I haven't seen much footage of him, but what I saw he seemed like an excellent counterpuncher.
     
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  8. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Tszyu would beat him anywhere but Argentina.
     
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  9. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Locche by UD in Argentina but anywhere else i'm not so sure because although Tszyu will hit nothing but fresh air at least 80% of the time, Locche's low work rate may cost him.
     
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  10. 88Chris05

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    Interesting fight. Tszyu, oddly enough, tended to fair well against guys who were a little slicker, faster and more movement/defensively-minded than he was, albeit not without some occasional early difficulties (Gonzalez, Hurtado, Judah, Mitchell etc.) and struggled with brawlers who muscled him and stayed in close to make it a gruelling fight (Phillips and Hatton). If you let him build forward momentum and give him the green light to initiate the exchanges, he could be a very hard guy to stop and deal with, even if you had the physical advantages. But Locche, of course, is a step up from the likes of Judah and Hurtado, if not in raw speed and footwork then certainly in unpredictability, reflexes and upper body movement.

    Unless you're an all-round defensive extraordinaire who combines movement with hand and foot speed of the first rank (e.g., Pernell, Benny etc.) then there's not a feather-fisted fighter around 140 who is beating Tszyu. You need to be able to make him anxious about throwing, rough him and break his momentum. I just don't think Locche had enough in his own shits to do that. Don't get me wrong, Locche will be making him miss a lot, but Nicolino's defensive style was to plant his feet and trade off his reflexes and movement from the waist rather than use the ring. I could see this being a fight where Tszyu doesn't look that impressive, but works his way to a points win as Locche just can't find a way in to the fight from an offensive point of view.

    Styles make fights, and I think this could be one of those cases where the lesser historical fighter just has the right strengths to beat the better overall man.
     
  11. ChrisJS

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    I agree with your take on that match but I feel Tszyu is the superior historical fighter too. May be in the minority on that opinion but I feel Tszyu was superb.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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