Tszyu vs Mosley at 140 in 2002, Who would have won?

No, I think you're mixing Mosley up with Forrest.

Tszyu beat Forrest in the World championships in 1991.

 

No! Anyone that think Tszyu could ko Mosley is ignorant. Mosley was only hurt when he fought Forrest, and that was after a head butt. Tszyu got knocked out by a journyman and quit against Hatton. Lets be real, what was Tszyu's best win? Who has really beaten in the pros? Zab Judah? :rofl

 

Quite right. Mosley wasn't good enough to make the national team for the big tournaments.

 

Based on what evidence? A head butt from Forrest?

 

mosley until tszyu ko'd him ..

 

You've just vindicated everything I said in my first post on this thread. You want to ignore his amateur career & completely disregard the fact that all his big wins came whilst he was fighting on the other side of the world to where he was based.

Please deal with the facts:

- Mosley was hurt by punches to the head by Forrest in their first fight.
- Tszyu was clearly no-where near his best when he lost to Phillips. When you have to travel halfway around the world every time you fight, sometimes that happens.
- Tszyu lost to Hatton at the end of his career. He had fought three rounds in the previous two and a half years leading up to that fight. This thread is supposed to be about both guys at their best.
- Tszyu's claim to greatness is a consistently high level of performance throughout his career (amateur & pro) over a fifteen year period.

He lost once from 1989 through until 2005 (to Vince Phillips fighting on the other side of the world). During this time he claimed the world amateur championship at 139 (by flogging Forrest) and the unified professional championship at 140.

He beat almost 20 guys who were either future, current or previous world professional champions or Olympic gold medalists during the course of his career.

At his best, he would have given Mosley all he could handle & then some.

 

moselys biggest wins were over ODLH and Margo, plus a few other mexicans...

 

Mosley was dropped by clean punches to the head by Forrest.

Please at least try to be objective.

I appreciate that you're not, but I'll give you points for trying.

 

MArgo is, btw, one of my favorite fighters, concrete or not. And ODLH holds a candle to no one. I just don't see who mosely has beaten, other than those guys, and a plump vargas.

 

atsch What does the amateurs have to do with the pros? Their is no head gear in the pros. He had no huge wins as a pro. And please lets not act like Mosley did not have a great amateur career. He simply ran into a guy that just has his number. While Mosley is out their beating guys like Oscar, Tszyu was beating 38 year old Chavez who had just lost to Willy Wise . Also, its funny how Tszyu was washed up against Hatton at 36, while Mosley beats Margo at the age of 37.

 

Did you not see the head butt? Did you not see Mosley take DLH's, Margo's, Vargas, Cotto's, and Mayorga's best shots? He took their best shots and came back even harder. When was the last time he quit in the corner or got knocked out? Guess what! It hasn't happened.

 

Interesting fight, but, Prime 4 Prime, Mosley is too fast and too strong - if he can make the weight nicely.

 

Who in the hell has Tszyu beaten? Urkal? Oh I forgot, he almost lost that fight.

 

You seem to have a hard time getting your facts straight.

Mosley never made the US team to either the Olympics or the World Amateur championships as an amateur so there is really no point in comparing him to Tszyu in that regard. Saying Mosley had "a great amateur career" in comparison to Tszyu is nonsense.

Chavez was 36 when Tszyu beat him, not 38 as you have claimed. He was the same age Tszyu was when he fought Hatton. In any event, the thread is about how they would have fared in their primes, not as 37 year olds.

Tszyu faced everyone he was contractually able to fight given he was with Showtime. The likes of Mosley & DLH were with HBO. That precluded those fights from ever being made.

As for Mosley still going strong at 37, I guess that's what a good steriods program can do for you, huh?

Nice use of emoticons, btw.

 

Dude, you're frothing at the mouth & going completely hysterical.

Calm down & pay attention: Vernon Forrest dropped Shane Mosley with clean punches to the head.

I appreciate that you are completely ignorant as to Tszyu's capabilities but like I said a few posts back, try to be more objective & then your arguments will be more compelling.

As it stands, you are coming across as a flag waving American who is incapable of giving any credit to the achievements of someone who happens to not come from your own country.

Instead of talking up Mosley, you are talking down Tszyu. That's nothing but ignorance on your part.

One loss in 15 years, amateur and pro, is a great achievement. Tszyu would have been a very worthy opponent for Mosley and would have acquitted himself extremely well should that fight have ever taken place.